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Wow, I actually learned a few things from that video...although I never thought I'd hear Cammisa say he would take an automatic over a manual transmission...
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I like when the media doesn't take themselves too seriously.
Jason did an entertaining analysis of the M3 lineage. Well done! |
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I caught that and it made me lol
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Hi, guys, Jason here. Whoa, lots of commentary. I'll quickly address a few questions:
Randy typically will only use automatic mode if the transmission is programmed well enough that it's in the right gear on its own. He did set the fast lap on the G80 M3C in auto + most aggressive mode because it was programmed well. However, even if he manually called for downshifts with the paddle, which he did on the warmup laps, the transmission wouldn't give him the downshift. If I remember from the VBox files, which I literally haven't looked at since we were filming, all of the 3/4-second advantage of the M4 Manual came from that hairpin. The tires on the M3C were brand-new. Used only to drive to the track and then set the lap. The M4's actually were pre-abused, so we were shocked it posted the times it did. Again, I need to look at the data again but I think the max speeds on the straights were almost identical. Which was surprising. For those who asked: didn't mention the E36 just because it was a logistical impossibility for us to have any more cars there. As it was, this was a monster for us to produce. And as for my comment on the F80? Umm, sorry to those who own one. It finally got good at the end — the Competition was really improved. But it's not in the same league as the G80; not in handling, certainly. It was a very good-looking car, though. And yeah that M3C did look incredible in the Frozen blue. I was originally going to do the episode with the yellow M4 but then we'd have had to look at it. Also, I really preferred the auto. Which is something I hate to admit - but that manual? Look, if you want a manual, you want a manual. So, at least it's there. But, much like the E60 M5, it feels like BMW AG phoned it in just to please BMW NA. :/
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Excellent video with a lot of vital history on the M3 origins. As much as I love the outstanding performance of the G80 M3, the front end has me yearning for the new M2 instead. Lets home this car is not another super model with two nostrils bigger than her eyes again.
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No denying that they do feel good and handles well, however for me it was no better than the M4 CS I own. For a car that looks nowhere as good as the CS, and on top does not significantly outperforms it, it's a clear pass for me. Useless comment without facts. |
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I understand that the G80 is better balanced, but still, just shortcutting it out of the M3/4 history is a bit harsh, no? |
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The few occassions I drove it, it excelled because of its torquey engine, aggressive DTC, nimble dynamics (felt light weight) and on the few mild oversteer hairpin exits I provoked, it felt progressive. Nonetheless, I understand the G80 is an entire level beter. |
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