[Serious]

no offense guys but the rwd and 6mt variant of these cars is going to have terrible depreciation compared with the most desirable awd comp model that is coming.

People wont want to hear this because they're RWD or 6MT purists but in 3 years most people are going to want an awd comp. the rwd and 6mt base cars and goign to have more depreciation unless you're scoring a big discount initially.

[Multimodal]

RWD - perhaps.

6MT - I strongly disagree. Manual transmission M cars (and even mainline BMW models) always have stronger resale value than comparable auto cars even though their MSRP is less. There are fewer sold when new and a strong base of enthusiasts seeking them out in the second-hand market.

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by snareman

The 45k dealer offer you mean?

I mean the M3C depreciation.
It's making me reevaluate my buying decisions on an M car. Don't get me wrong, I am own a M2C myself.

[CityLife]

Impossible to tell, too many variables to know this number. Demand is what it is now, and perception of the vehicle may change 3 years from now. Also, it seems like manufacturers are able to adjust production lower without any issues, so if the demand is not there in the first couple of years and production is cut, and all of a sudden people love the car in year 3, you've got a supply shortage. They could also decide to ramp up beyond forecast once the chip shortage is resolved next year.

[Multimodal]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

I mean the M3C depreciation.
It's making me reevaluate my buying decisions on an M car. Don't get me wrong, I am own a M2C myself.

Wait until you see what 7 series or S-Class depreciation is like.

[Nettles]

Feel like this is a troll post

[snareman]

Originally Posted by Nettles

Feel like this is a troll post

Why?

[Multimodal]

Breaking News at 11:00 - cars depreciate

[Der_Wolf]

Originally Posted by snareman

I sold my $78,000 2018 M4 with 22,000 miles on it for $53,000 in December. Local dealer offered me 45k for it through KBB.

I sold my 2018 F80 zcp with 20k miles for $60k on March 7th. I couldn't believe it. Another BMW dealership "only" offered me $54.5k for it. I was happy with the $60k, especially coz I got them down about $4.5k on the G82

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Serious

no offense guys but the rwd and 6mt variant of these cars is going to have terrible depreciation compared with the most desirable awd comp model that is coming.

People wont want to hear this because they're RWD or 6MT purists but in 3 years most people are going to want an awd comp. the rwd and 6mt base cars and goign to have more depreciation unless you're scoring a big discount initially.

Well it's never ever ever been the case before, but maybe this time it'll be different! Unless it's the last rwd mt m3 or something.

Well I guess in 3 years there won't be a market for it really, but eventually things will shift in favor (get it) of the rwd MT car.

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

Wait until you see what 7 series or S-Class depreciation is like.

That's why I never want to buy those cars.

[SickGTR]

I don't think you can use how the market is now for what it will be like. Shit right now is crazy. It will not stay like this

[heavyD^2]

If you can't handle depreciation you are in the wrong price range of vehicles. Have to go up to more exotic or down to volume Toyotas if resale is a concern.

[SickGTR]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

If you can't handle depreciation you are in the wrong price range of vehicles. Have to go up to more exotic or down to volume Toyotas if resale is a concern.

Spot on. Get a GT3

[MarineRaider]

Originally Posted by SickGTR

Spot on. Get a GT3

You can't daily a GT3 though, I tried for 3 days until I came out and saw two young girls using my rear wing to hold their handbags while they took a selfie.

As the values go up the car sees less and less time on the road. It's a weird world. That aside you just cannot buy M, AMG and in a sane world even Porsches and not expect depreciate big or small. These cars are not investments.

[FISH22]

I’m not sure why any of this matters. Every sports car I’ve purchased (all sub $100k) were all emotional buys. They struck a chord with me. Never have I purchased a fun car, has possible drastic depreciation impacted that decision. And same with my G80. I fell in love with it. I’m going to drive it till the wheels fall off, and if I sell it down the road and make $20k on it, so be it.

YOLO.

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by -Vanguard-

5K brake jobs, leaks, gaskets going, electrical problems, vanos problems, etc...BMW isnt known for making reliable cars outside of warranty anymore.

M cars are basically luxury commodities for rich people to play with for 2-4 years these days. The sucker is the one who buys a used M5 with 100K on the clock that will need 25K in repairs/maintenance in the near future.

American muscle is usually cheap to fix and Ford's and SRT's high performance engines are pretty damn bulletproof.

You've paid $5,000 to replace brakes on an M3?

$25, in repairs?

Are you buying salvage title cars?

[SickGTR]

Originally Posted by MarineRaider

You can't daily a GT3 though, I tried for 3 days until I came out and saw two young girls using my rear wing to hold their handbags while they took a selfie.

As the values go up the car sees less and less time on the road. It's a weird world. That aside you just cannot buy M, AMG and in a sane world even Porsches and not expect depreciate big or small. These cars are not investments.

I agree. I would never buy a car to try to make money. I buy them to drive!! Just cause you don't daily a GT3 doesn't mean someone else will? There is a dude in my neighborhood who daily drives a 720. God bless him. Wish I could roll like that In the end, they are just cars. Do what you want. Drive what you want. YOLO

[phxF80]

As probably others have said, now would most likely be the time to sell/trade. A year ago my f80 was being offered around 53-54. I just traded it in for about 60. For what i paid it depreciated about 10%.

My car wasn't in the most pristine of condition and with the tax break and some other things the dealer offered.. was worth it to me. Reading about how allocations are so dry and this dealer had nearly my build, I jumped.

[LuvMyE92]

Originally Posted by EXE46

I have even seen posters claiming they sold their pickup's to third party buyers for more than they had initially paid for it. That right there tells you all you need to know...

I sold my 2020 Mustang GT that I bought new, to Carvana in April for more than I paid for it, including sales tax, tags, fees, etc.

Originally Posted by Axix23

Whats the reasoning on the M cars not holding their value?

Because BMW.

Originally Posted by Www777

And this could be the last one offered with a manual transmission. Although, I recently read that Jeep plans to offer a fully electric version with a manual transmission. I didn’t know that was possible?

Why not? It's just a different kind of motor/engine.

Originally Posted by Der_Wolf

They can have them, but not many people do it because you only need two gears (forward and reverse) for an electric...

Porsche does it (two forward gears) in the Taycan.

Originally Posted by FISH22

YOLO.

Exactly.

As for the OP, I would have leased my M4 but that I got a bigger discount (incentives) by buying than I would have leasing. I consider total outlay, not monthly payments. But I'm weird that way.

[OSee]

Originally Posted by ZGM3

Take a look at CarEdge.com:
I am not sure how accurate it is, maybe give you an starting point to figure it out:
They have the M2 and M5 on the site, not M3/4 yet

https://caredge.com/bmw/m5/depreciat...89&o=3&m=10500

This tool has an M2 at 65% after 3 years. I got close to 80% of my M2s value after 3 years and 22k miles. This was early into COVID when I wasn't driving it.

I could have probably gotten more if I sold during this crazy crazy market.

Nothing really makes sense anymore.

[NinjaBum]

Originally Posted by SickGTR

Spot on. Get a GT3

GT3s still depreciated to 130-150k earlier this year. Like someone mentioned earlier, you shouldn't be looking at the crazy market now thinking it will continue.

These dudes buying 200k+ 991 GT3s are likely going to take a bath once the 992 hits the market and starts coming onto resale sites and supply issues are alleviated.

GT3s and TTS depreciate like many others, it's just they tend to have a higher floor than many cars. The cars you buy that will quickly appreciate in normal market conditions aren't ones attainable by most of us shlubs out there.