[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Mo Reviews

Oh boy, comparing a MT to a DCT... good god. I'm out.

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Before I bow out, I apologise to the 'pack' if my command of the English language brought about an overwhelming and overriding sense of insecurity/deficiency, so much so that you felt the need to react in the manner in which you all have. All of this because I have an opinion that differs to your own. Seriously, grow up. What kind of boring world do you want to live in; if everyone had the same opinions.

Good day.

Do you even bother reading ? I clearly stated my example was 6MT to 6MT

And BTW, I am not a fan of the G8X, but I remain objective regarding the data and facts.

You should indeed bow out before you dig yourself too deep. But hey, if you want to live in a dream world where the F8X has better power-to-weight than the G8X, it’s all up to you

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe

Seriously. We have video of the same base F82 car doing 12.5 sec on dry pavement with no exhaust "fireworks" 7 months ago and now doing 12.0 sec on wet pavement and exhaust "fireworks". Seems obvious that this latest test is compromised.

You insist a lot on the “wet pavement”. If you look at the actual race, the F82 launched in an area that was pretty dry.

[02M3ForMe]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

You insist a lot on the “wet pavement”. If you look at the actual race, the F82 launched in an area that was pretty dry.

Even if perfectly dry, it's still 0.5 seconds quicker than last time with clear evidence of a tune.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe

Even if perfectly dry, it's still 0.5 seconds quicker than last time with clear evidence of a tune.

What about better tires?

[dialogical]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

What about better tires?

Maybe I'm ignorant but isn't the fact that it burbles proof that there is a tune, and now we're just kinda trusting that it isn't adding power?

[02M3ForMe]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

What about better tires?

Maybe. Have info on that?

Occam's razor is that it's the tune.

[02M3ForMe]

Confirmed running PZero in the latest run.





He had Michelin on his car around the time he participated in the first 12.5 second race (second slide).



Not betting on tires being the factor that subtracted a whole 0.5 sec off his time.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by dialogical

Maybe I'm ignorant but isn't the fact that it burbles proof that there is a tune, and now we're just kinda trusting that it isn't adding power?

That this car has a tune to make more power is not out of the equation, but my point is that a 12.0 is quite possible even on a stock 425hp non-CP tune for an F82. Grippier tires than the shitty stock PSS can also quite significantly improve 1/4 mile ET by several tenths. The F82 launched pretty well in that video. In the 12.5 video, not so well (not even sure he used launch control). Those are all contributing factors.

[dialogical]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

That this car has a tune to make more power is not out of the equation, but my point is that a 12.0 is quite possible even on a stock 425hp non-CP tune for an F82. Grippier tires than the shitty stock PSS can also quite significantly improve 1/4 mile ET by several tenths. The F82 launched pretty well in that video. In the 12.5 video, not so well (not even sure he used launch control). Those are all contributing factors.

Makes sense. We'll never know (and I'm getting a stick in my G80 which shows you how much I car about straight line speed) but it kinda seems natural to me that if we already know the car is tuned that the tune is responsible for the abnormally good time.

Doesn't really matter in the end though because anyone going to Carwow for objective testing is crazy.

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by LeedsM4

Whichever way you look at it, DTC is a better transmission for what the car is trying to be. People keep saying "I don't mind it's smoother around town than the DTC blah blah"

If you want smoothness, go buy a 335d/340i. Smooth should never be used to describe an M car.

The thing is with ZF is that it inherently restricts the cars performance. Due to oil cavitation you simply car spin the torque converter gearbox as fast as DTC, ZF hates high RPM. Which is why the S58 doesn't Rev as high as the S55. It also hates being banged off the redline and then told to upshift, there's that awful up change delay.

I'm sorry but ZF being in this car is not because 'we had to make it work X Drive' but because they couldn't be bothered and it cost money to keep making it.

Price of the car has gone up, quality of the product has gone down. G80 is essentially a M340i plus, I'm sorry to say

Lol I'll gap you off the line, through a corner, and from a roll.

It's a better car than the f80.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by LBbluem2

Lol I'll gap you off the line, through a corner, and from a roll.

It's a better car than the f80.

It would have been even better with a DCT...

[dialogical]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

It would have been even better with a DCT...

Just get the stick! Give in to the cult of the clutch pedal.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by LBbluem2

through a corner

*Spec Miata Intensifies*

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by dialogical

Just get the stick! Give in to the cult of the clutch pedal.

My m2c was a 6speed.

This is the only car I've ever had in auto and it's fun for now.

I'll 100% be purchasing whatever the special edition g87 m2 is in a 6mt

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

It would have been even better with a DCT...

I'm sure it would have been. It would have also been better with a lighter v8, a different front end, and a blowjob machine but it is what it is.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by LBbluem2

I'm sure it would have been. It would have also been better with a lighter v8, a different front end, and a blowjob machine but it is what it is.

Yup, and that's why I ain't getting one, can't live without a blowjob machine in the event my GF isn't riding with me .

[Scorp!on]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Yup, and that's why I ain't getting one, can't live without a blowjob machine in the event my GF isn't riding with me .

damn, I knew I was missing something in the G80

Time to give it back, a car without a BJ machine is just crap!

And with the damn Bucket seats my GF has issues with doing it

[acre22f90]

Per C&D. Or do they not count either.

[tasa]

Hi, I'm new to the forum, I'm from Spain in the province of Alicante
I have for 3 years the bmw m4 f82 DKG yas marine
I have been in the Jarama circuit in Madrid and tried the M g82
and slower shifting, worse cornering, the g82 is thinner but doesn't feel sporty

[tasa]

2021 BMW M4 Competition vs BMW M4 at Monza Full Course
YOUTUBE

[tasa]

this video shows that the f82 weighs less
and it's a very good M the g82 is for a ride

[Scorp!on]

dude, that's a video game.