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      03-22-2021, 10:25 AM   #67
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Anyone else surprised that the wiper fluid comes out on the actual wiper blades and doesn't spray against the windshield? I thought my sprayer was clogged or broken, then figured out it sprays from the wiper blade.
My wife's Volvo does this as well. It actually works great.
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Does this mean wiper blades are going to be $200/set or are the orifices built into the wiper arm?
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Freeze frame at 7 seconds.
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Anyone else surprised that the wiper fluid comes out on the actual wiper blades and doesn't spray against the windshield? I thought my sprayer was clogged or broken, then figured out it sprays from the wiper blade.
Huh! I used it once so far and totally didn't notice. I will, therefore, clean my windshield when I go for a drive.
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Maybe wrong place to ask: The big radar "thing" in the front is that only there if you order the "Driving Assistance Professional" package?
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Maybe wrong place to ask: The big radar "thing" in the front is that only there if you order the "Driving Assistance Professional" package?
Yes, it is, I left this option unchecked
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      03-22-2021, 05:26 PM   #73
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Does this mean wiper blades are going to be $200/set or are the orifices built into the wiper arm?
Built in.
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Is the exhaust burble still same as F80? Or is it eliminated or not noticeable? Personally I don't like it. So for me less to zero would be better.
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Is the exhaust burble still same as F80? Or is it eliminated or not noticeable? Personally I don't like it. So for me less to zero would be better.
It has a quiet mode that you can set if you want less exhaust sound. Not sure if that reduces the burble (I assume you mean on the downshift) but it is a noticeable difference in volume if you have the damper on.
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      03-22-2021, 07:14 PM   #76
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I filled my G82 today with gas. The tank is only a little over 13 gallons. Fuel economy is terrible. The range is in the low 300's with a full tank. But I still LOVE HER!!❤️❤️
my hellcat had a 16.5 gal tank got 15 mpg full tank was 250 miles 300 sounds great to me
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Yes, it is, I left this option unchecked
Okay, good to know what not to get
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Mine does not. However, it has the wireless charging pad in front of the console, and then a parallel port and a 12 volt outlet by the cupholder.

And two outlets in the back of the center console (although those are not parallel, they are android style).
I've always plugged my phone wireless phone charger cradle into that under the dash outlet and then run it up to the passenger center vent. Putting it in the center console plug doesn't sound as tidy. Although if the android auto integration works well maybe I won't have to and can just set it in the charger.
my s20 plus fits perfectly with a case in the wireless pad. Android auto wireless is also pretty flawless . I've only had the car for a few hours so maybe this all changes.
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my s20 plus fits perfectly with a case in the wireless pad. Android auto wireless is also pretty flawless . I've only had the car for a few hours so maybe this all changes.
Is there a little spare room to fit an S20/21+?
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Is there a little spare room to fit an S20/21+?
See this pic of my S20+ case in the slot. There's maybe a mm or 2 left or right, meaning if your phone plus case is much taller it won't fit flat.
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      03-22-2021, 08:20 PM   #81
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See this pic of my S20+ case in the slot. There's maybe a mm or 2 left or right, meaning if your phone plus case is much taller it won't fit flat.
Oops. I missed the word Plus on your first post. Thanks for the pic! I have a minimalist case so hopefully I should be fine.
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Damn. Looks like I'll be upgrading it then as probably my first mod.
I've upgraded the sound in every BMW I've owned. The HK in this is no where near as bad as the fake "HK" sound was in my M2C. And I've heard the base audio in the 2 series and the X1 and it's utterly dreadful. I'm not discounting that our fellow forum member is unhappy with it, but it really is no where near as bad as base X1 sound.

The primary issues with it are the same as earlier HK systems I've heard:

1. the metal HK tweeters are harsh. I've used HK tweets with expert DSP work running through them and they never stop being harsh but aren't physically that awful. It's placement and tuning. The location of the front tweeters essentially demands soft-dome tweeters unless the human listening to them really loves high notes.
2. We're too close to the driver's side speakers. This was REALLY an issue in the smaller 2, but remains an issue in the 3. My SO has a 530e and it's JUST far enough away. Echolocation causes this to always seem off at that point, and the system's use of the evil center channel doesn't help. Fade 1 step back, and two steps right (for left-hand drive) and it reduces the issue considerably in the G80 (and makes it worse for your passenger)
3. The Under-Seat woofers are underpowered in relation to the rest of the drivers. Again, I think it's less of an issue on the G80 system after living with it for a week and a half, but I still have the bass pushed further up in the EQ than I would if the power ratio was spread out better.

Overall, I'm less offended by the HK system in my M3 than I have been with any other HK system I've had. And I'm deeply picky.

One other note:

EVERY comment about audio systems comes down to what you are listening to, what your ears are used to, and what your ears are capable of. You can run spectrum analyzers until the end of time, but most humans are NOT looking for a perfect system. They are looking for a sound system that meets their specific criteria. I don't listen to techno, rap, house, or EDM. Or Country. But I listen to almost everything else. I've heard a system tuned specifically for a guy who loves EDM. He loved it, I hated it. The professional tuner also hated it but it was what they guy wanted.

I think most buyers won't notice where this HK system fails. Time will tell how much it's particular failures annoy me and what that eventually does to my budget. :-)
I am a little surprised they went with the HK sound system for the M3/M4. They put in merino leather as standard, but then cheap out on sound. I guess maybe they just figure people who want to upgrade will do aftermarket anyway. I had a B&O system 2 cars ago and Bose in my current car, and the B&O was hands down the best, just beautiful sound. That said, HK knows owns B&O's auto division, so maybe those differences are a myth now anyway
We all should be fortunate, depending on how you look at it, that the G80/G82 still has the HK as apparently there is lithium shortage for the speakers/tweeters that some BMW's are having the HK dropped for the stock "factory" stereo.

BMW is now using B&W, as Harmon provides the B&W OEM parts, but BMW has never offered the "luxury" stereo in the 3 or 4 series, only 5 series and above, and X5 and above.
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Damn. Looks like I'll be upgrading it then as probably my first mod.
I've upgraded the sound in every BMW I've owned. The HK in this is no where near as bad as the fake "HK" sound was in my M2C. And I've heard the base audio in the 2 series and the X1 and it's utterly dreadful. I'm not discounting that our fellow forum member is unhappy with it, but it really is no where near as bad as base X1 sound.

The primary issues with it are the same as earlier HK systems I've heard:

1. the metal HK tweeters are harsh. I've used HK tweets with expert DSP work running through them and they never stop being harsh but aren't physically that awful. It's placement and tuning. The location of the front tweeters essentially demands soft-dome tweeters unless the human listening to them really loves high notes.
2. We're too close to the driver's side speakers. This was REALLY an issue in the smaller 2, but remains an issue in the 3. My SO has a 530e and it's JUST far enough away. Echolocation causes this to always seem off at that point, and the system's use of the evil center channel doesn't help. Fade 1 step back, and two steps right (for left-hand drive) and it reduces the issue considerably in the G80 (and makes it worse for your passenger)
3. The Under-Seat woofers are underpowered in relation to the rest of the drivers. Again, I think it's less of an issue on the G80 system after living with it for a week and a half, but I still have the bass pushed further up in the EQ than I would if the power ratio was spread out better.

Overall, I'm less offended by the HK system in my M3 than I have been with any other HK system I've had. And I'm deeply picky.

One other note:

EVERY comment about audio systems comes down to what you are listening to, what your ears are used to, and what your ears are capable of. You can run spectrum analyzers until the end of time, but most humans are NOT looking for a perfect system. They are looking for a sound system that meets their specific criteria. I don't listen to techno, rap, house, or EDM. Or Country. But I listen to almost everything else. I've heard a system tuned specifically for a guy who loves EDM. He loved it, I hated it. The professional tuner also hated it but it was what they guy wanted.

I think most buyers won't notice where this HK system fails. Time will tell how much it's particular failures annoy me and what that eventually does to my budget. :-)
I am a little surprised they went with the HK sound system for the M3/M4. They put in merino leather as standard, but then cheap out on sound. I guess maybe they just figure people who want to upgrade will do aftermarket anyway. I had a B&O system 2 cars ago and Bose in my current car, and the B&O was hands down the best, just beautiful sound. That said, HK knows owns B&O's auto division, so maybe those differences are a myth now anyway
We all should be fortunate, depending on how you look at it, that the G80/G82 still has the HK as apparently there is lithium shortage for the speakers/tweeters that some BMW's are having the HK dropped for the stock "factory" stereo.

BMW is now using B&W, as Harmon provides the B&W OEM parts, but BMW has never offered the "luxury" stereo in the 3 or 4 series, only 5 series and above, and X5 and above.
I'm just happy it's standard, there's 2015 base f82's out there without HK. Almost bought one on accident; was the exact spec I wanted at the time but misses that. Became standard in 2016.

Also BMW made the crazy decision that the M4CS didn't need HK for weight savings, LMFAO, but it still sounds better than the base supposedly so nbd I guess.
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Oops. I missed the word Plus on your first post. Thanks for the pic! I have a minimalist case so hopefully I should be fine.
Just an FYI, but I think that the manual doesn't have the large pad, but rather a bracket in the center console compartment. Not 100% certain since mine is the competition, but think I saw that some place. And i think that bracket isn't as roomy as the tray.
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Couple of questions to current owners:

What's the delta between what's shown on the speedo and actual gps verified speed at 80 MPH?

What's the rpm at GPS verified 80MPH in top gear?

Please include whether it's manual or automatic transmission

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wow only 13 gallons? Thought i read 16 somewhere. Not a dealbreaker though lol
Usable fuel is 13 gallons, 15.6 is the total capacity. F8X had the same fuel tank size.
EPA lists both current and previous gen at 19mpg combined so there is no difference in range. Expect to fill up every 200-250 miles.
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Usable fuel is 13 gallons, 15.6 is the total capacity. F8X had the same fuel tank size.

EPA lists both current and previous gen at 19mpg combined so there is no difference in range. Expect to fill up every 200-250 miles.
This is unfortunate.
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Couple of questions to current owners:

What's the delta between what's shown on the speedo and actual gps verified speed at 80 MPH?

What's the rpm at GPS verified 80MPH in top gear?

Please include whether it's manual or automatic transmission

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Usable fuel is 13 gallons, 15.6 is the total capacity. F8X had the same fuel tank size.
EPA lists both current and previous gen at 19mpg combined so there is no difference in range. Expect to fill up every 200-250 miles.
80mph verified by an R7 and Android Auto. Rpm is 2k maybe a tick lower, m3c.
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80mph verified by an R7 and Android Auto. Rpm is 2k maybe a tick lower, m3c.
thank you. Is the speedometer accurate is it optimistic by few MPH compared to GPS?
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