F1 2021: Brazilian GP - São Paulo (Nov 14)

M5Rick · 11-15-2021, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MC cheated half his career !

Google is your friend , mate ...

RB has decided not to protest just yet of suspected M erc cheating concerning the rear wing and other items and it's showing on wolf by his uncouth swearing and ranting at RB now.
https://racingnews365.com/red-bull-w...ainst-mercedes

Hulk Smash · 11-15-2021, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

On the subject of foul language I believe Wolf swore in his F1 confines on camera so will the Fia bring him to book for conduct unbecoming of a team manager.

You heard what Wolf said? I don't recall hearing audio from the Mercedes garage when the camera cut to Wolf after Lewis passed Max. You might think Wolf swore, but you didn't hear anything. If you're a lip reader, exactly what did he say?

M5Rick · 11-15-2021, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by M2CS

You heard what Wolf said? I don't recall hearing audio from the Mercedes garage when the camera cut to Wolf after Lewis passed Max. You might think Wolf swore, but you didn't hear anything. If you're a lip reader, exactly what did he say?

I saw a clip where he swore and the word was there starred and don't ask me where mate.

3798j · 11-15-2021, 05:31 AM

Max has a history of bad manners and poor judgement when defending the overtake...and it was on display yesterday.
Without the in car camera footage, race control was handicapped.
Masi has confirmed Verstappen came close to receiving a black-and-white flag for the incident.
"It certainly came into my mind," conceded Masi. "I looked at it a few more times [and] it wasn't far off a black-and-white flag."

Blindside_137 · 11-15-2021, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by M2CS

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

On the subject of foul language I believe Wolf swore in his F1 confines on camera so will the Fia bring him to book for conduct unbecoming of a team manager.

You heard what Wolf said? I don't recall hearing audio from the Mercedes garage when the camera cut to Wolf after Lewis passed Max. You might think Wolf swore, but you didn't hear anything. If you're a lip reader, exactly what did he say?

It's on the official F1 Instagram account. Pretty obvious to me he says F—- YES!

M5Rick · 11-15-2021, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 3798j

Max has a history of bad manners and poor judgement when defending the overtake...and it was on display yesterday.
Without the in car camera footage, race control was handicapped.
Masi has confirmed Verstappen came close to receiving a black-and-white flag for the incident.
"It certainly came into my mind," conceded Masi. "I looked at it a few more times [and] it wasn't far off a black-and-white flag."

It was decided that it was a fair block by Max.

Steeler · 11-15-2021, 06:15 AM

Wolf showing some emotion, not a bad thing. Good for the sport in my opinion.
Now to just get Horner to quit his Karening and we all good.

3798j · 11-15-2021, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

It was decided that it was a fair block by Max.

Not quite...Masi will look into Max's dirty driving.
Asked if the forward-facing on-board footage from Verstappen's Red Bull had been available when looking at the incident, Masi said: "It is only the cameras that are broadcast that are basically what we have access to throughout.
Regarding that forward onboard footage..."It hasn’t been obtained yet. It has been requested.”
Put to him this footage is the "smoking gun" in this instance, Masi conceded: “It could be, absolutely.
"But we didn’t have access to it. It has been downloaded and once the commercial rights holder supplies it, we will have a look.
Absolutely [I will look at it]. We’ve got the forward-facing, the 360…all of the camera angles that we don’t get live will be downloaded and we will have a look at them.”

M5Rick · 11-15-2021, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 3798j

Not quite...Masi will look into Max's dirty driving.
Asked if the forward-facing on-board footage from Verstappen's Red Bull had been available when looking at the incident, Masi said: "It is only the cameras that are broadcast that are basically what we have access to throughout.
Regarding that forward onboard footage..."It hasn’t been obtained yet. It has been requested.”
Put to him this footage is the "smoking gun" in this instance, Masi conceded: “It could be, absolutely.
"But we didn’t have access to it. It has been downloaded and once the commercial rights holder supplies it, we will have a look.
Absolutely [I will look at it]. We’ve got the forward-facing, the 360…all of the camera angles that we don’t get live will be downloaded and we will have a look at them.”

Commercial rights holder is under no obligation to hand anything over as they are nothing to do with the actual running of a team.

jkoral · 11-15-2021, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 3798j

Not quite...

Even without the forward facing onboard footage, they didn't even look at the telemetry:

"As the incident was merely noted and not investigated, it meant the stewards will not have reviewed the telemetry from Verstappen’s car highlighting his corner entry speed, braking point and steering inputs."

From https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-ve...ssing-footage/

M5Rick · 11-15-2021, 06:36 AM

Just saw a news flash that 'reportedly' Audi have bought out all of the McLaren group, wow.

FuzzyPeaches · 11-15-2021, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Just saw a news flash that 'reportedly' Audi have bought out all of the McLaren group, wow.

McLaren says no.
https://www.mclaren.com/racing/insid...tatement-sale/

M5Rick · 11-15-2021, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPeaches

McLaren says no.
https://www.mclaren.com/racing/insid...tatement-sale/

Yes that's just flashed up also just now.

minn19 · 11-15-2021, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

Well you do that then....
I'm sure they'll pick up on your foul language. You're the only one that reverts to that and wishes F1 drivers to die in crashes...

Will do, wouldn’t bother me as my life doesn’t revolve around this sub forum/forum like it does for a lot of others here. Hope your friends don’t mind some potential collateral damage.

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Just saw a news flash that 'reportedly' Audi have bought out all of the McLaren group, wow.

Wouldn’t that be VAG?

M5Rick · 11-15-2021, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MC cheated half his career !

Google is your friend , mate ...

Look at this,Ham's steering wheel moving backwards.
https://racingnews365.com/mercedes-s...l-conspiracies

///M Power-Belgium · 11-15-2021, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

But he made me happy and drove a car that didn't look like $hit

Of course , but Senna wasn't happy with MC's behavior in the pit and pitlane .

Actually it was a dogfight on and off-track , just like MAX vs HAM !

///M Power-Belgium · 11-15-2021, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Look at this,Ham's steering wheel moving backwards.
https://racingnews365.com/mercedes-s...l-conspiracies

Well , I heard it last night . And it was confirmed early this morning while I drove to the company at 04:30 AM .

As you /we can see : It's very clear that HAM pulls on his steering wheel for at least 3 centimeters !

Time for the video !

///M Power-Belgium · 11-15-2021, 10:03 AM

And this was 'DAS already in 2018 ! Yes I said in 2018 !

Surprise !

M5Rick · 11-15-2021, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Of course , but Senna wasn't happy with MC's behavior in the pit and pitlane .

Actually it was a dogfight on and off-track , just like MAX vs HAM !

Some well taken advice there from Senna to Schumi the L driver

M5Rick · 11-15-2021, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well , I heard it last night . And it was confirmed early this morning while I drove to the company at 04:30 AM .

As you /we can see : It's very clear that HAM pulls on his steering wheel for at least 3 centimeters !

Time for the video !

DAS mk2?

///M Power-Belgium · 11-15-2021, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

DAS mk2?

If Mercedes wasn't ashamed to cheat with HAM's DRS flap , then why they wouldn't try it to cheat with a DAS-MK2 ...
And HAM's Merc wasn't 20 km/h faster on the straight , it actually was 31 km/h faster .
I was just reading an article from Checo : Checo said holding off HAM was impossible . It was like HAM's Mercedes got a rocket engine !
Further Checo said :In my whole career , I've never seen such a speed before !

Currenty I don't see 'how HONDA can push the Red Bull in a 30 km/h higher topspeed .
IMHO ,the whole situation Isn't looking good for MAX and Red Bull ...

I really wonder , why the "French Frog" Isn't started with a 'deep Mercedes investigation ..

Chappers 71 · 11-15-2021, 11:14 AM

My understanding of the MB rear wing is that it has previously passed all FIA inspections but at Brazil something BROKE on the rear wing with the result that the measuring tool passed through the outer section & not inner section. Normally this would have been able to have been REAIRED under parc ferme conditions...but not this weekend...

Martin Brundle tells me that in his opinion Max opened up the steering angle & could have made more of an effort to make the corner, that's good enough for me. Conveniently the on-board footage is not available...camera view switches at crucial moment....ah ha, just as well MB has everyone in their pocket

Anyways looking forward to the next race

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