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From my point of view, I don't feel cheated by the lack of a competition model and I don't care which AT is offered. I drive a 340 now and it has plenty of power for my needs. I expect to get an M3 whenever I am ready to replace my car, not because I want more power or because I think the M3 looks cool, but I just prefer the manual transmission. I am grateful that there is one model available. I don't mind the rev matching and for me, living in San Francisco, the clutch delay valve is a help when I need to back up a steep hill to get into a tight parking space.
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Though a 992 GT3 is coming next year too, Not sure if i should stretch the budget that much for a life-time car. I'm waiting for my dealer to get info from BMW as he says we might not get approval for manual builds in middle-east.
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I have no giant desire to have F90 M5 type power available to me as I find it personally unusable and not enjoyable. So the base one with the magic 400/400 (most likely to the wheels) is plenty fast. I have literally 0 problem with the way my E92 M3 drives with its apparently gutless engine. If I wanted light to light numbers, I'd just consider a Tesla 3 Performance and call it a day, but clearly I'm not. Not only am I grateful for the 3 pedals, but I'm also grateful that BMW didn't actually "handicap" the car by not being able to order fun options like the carbon buckets on a base car.
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I agree it's wonderful that you can get the manual with all the goodies you'd like vs having a stripped down option set. |
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This is a really strong argument for the manual. A Tesla 3 Performance is faster and costs less. But it will be there 10 years from now and beyond. That may not be the case with a manual M3/M4.
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480 HP is more than enough for me (a tune can increase this anyways)
Gimme an M4 with 6spd, carbon buckets and as few options as possible....I dunno which color yet. Lol |
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I was playing on the Canadian configurator to see all the color combos, and at least there, you can order the base model with carbon buckets as a standalone option, or part of the more expensive Carbon Package which includes the seats and all the exterior bits.
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Keep in mind, the 470hp will probably be WHP Numbers as BMW naturally underrates. So this is a 510-520HP stock 6MT car. That's insane.
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To respond to the OP, I find it very hard to believe that BMW would waste R&D and production setup money to market a product they purposefully want to fail. If they wanted to "kill" the 6MT, they would simply not have offered it.
IMO, they still want to cater to that small niche of MT enthusiast, but they did it in the most economical manner given their assumed low take rate. It's all a question of "business case". We should just relish in the fact that BMW is still offering the 6MT option.
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For the record - I'm probably still getting one, and I don't 100% hate the new grill. For those of you posting that the F80 was "too powerful" for the road or the track straight from the factory. . . Lol. It's a mildly fast car, nothing more.
First and second gear were both a little short, and traction certainly wasn't great at low speeds, but that car really needed a tune to wake it up. And yes, I get it. I tune all my cars and I will tune this one too. . . I just think starting on a level playing field would have been nice. As noted, manuals are slower anyway. . . There is no need to handicap them. |
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This is really not that surprising; when it comes to BMW OEM Performance "tunes" - for some strange reason, the automatic transmission are always allotted more power than the manuals 🤷🏻
I couldn't care less, I would take a 100hp haircut, just for a privilege of a bonafide clutch pedal . |
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besides what other 500hp manual sedan can you buy? i commuted in the winter in germany for 4 years with an M3. throw some sandbags in the trunk and mpsa's or swedish snow tires. you will be fine.
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For winter driving you just need winter tires. I've driven through so many blizzards in M3s, all you need are proper winter tires. Which I may add, should be mandatory regardless of how many driven wheels you have. |
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Can't agree with this post more. Need 6MT competition. I just hope that this 6MT is better than the previous models. The F8x's was an improvement over the E9x's but still, not smooth, still feel rough going from 1st to 2nd at times.
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I haven't read anything about BMW upgrading their MT between the F8X and G8X. It may be a direct lift and shift in this case. But I do agree with you, the 1-2 shift is very difficult to be smooth
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