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      12-18-2021, 10:24 PM   #1
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Did anyone get the xdrive without the option that M drive Pro adds?

I'm curious to see how rowdy the car is when changing to RWD with traction fully off.

I had the 1-10 setting on my AMG for a little added support on a fishtail with the setting at 4 or 5.

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Team,

Did anyone get the xdrive without the option that M drive Pro adds?

I'm curious to see how rowdy the car is when changing to RWD with traction fully off.

I had the 1-10 setting on my AMG for a little added support on a fishtail with the setting at 4 or 5.

Any feedback is appreciated
How is this different from a RWD with traction off, or an AWD with M Drive Professional set to the lowest setting?

You don't need an AWD without M Drive Pro to know the answer to this.
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      12-18-2021, 11:08 PM   #3
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Team,

Did anyone get the xdrive without the option that M drive Pro adds?

I'm curious to see how rowdy the car is when changing to RWD with traction fully off.

I had the 1-10 setting on my AMG for a little added support on a fishtail with the setting at 4 or 5.

Any feedback is appreciated
How is this different from a RWD with traction off, or an AWD with M Drive Professional set to the lowest setting?

You don't need an AWD without M Drive Pro to know the answer to this.
Good point indeed, just trying to see if it should a deal breaker since I missed an opportunity to purchase one without this and living in regret haha.

$900 option that just adds that little bit of safety I guess
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Good point indeed, just trying to see if it should a deal breaker since I missed an opportunity to purchase one without this and living in regret haha.

$900 option that just adds that little bit of safety I guess
Are you saying that you regret passing on an Xdrive because it didnt have Mdrive professional?

While I am waiting for my allocation, I am leaning on not choosing this option. Depends on the individuals intent and skill level. I dont view as a must have for all but if you plan on drifting and need to develop your abilities, then yes. There might be other reasons like you have. Since you used it in your MB, it might be something you want, if not just for piece of mind.
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Good point indeed, just trying to see if it should a deal breaker since I missed an opportunity to purchase one without this and living in regret haha.

$900 option that just adds that little bit of safety I guess
Are you saying that you regret passing on an Xdrive because it didnt have Mdrive professional?

While I am waiting for my allocation, I am leaning on not choosing this option. Depends on the individuals intent and skill level. I dont view as a must have for all but if you plan on drifting and need to develop your abilities, then yes. There might be other reasons like you have. Since you used it in your MB, it might be something you want, if not just for piece of mind.
There is zero traction control in 2WD mode for the AWD car without this. I had skipped it in the first spec sheet but added it in pretty fast because like most things you can't get it after the fact.
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My $.02. Since steering feel has been confirmed as exactly the same in xdrive and rear drive the only reason I would put it into rear drive mode is to drift and do burn outs. Personally, I've never done it, but I can't think of reason you would need traction control in RWD on an xdrive.
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Good point indeed, just trying to see if it should a deal breaker since I missed an opportunity to purchase one without this and living in regret haha.

$900 option that just adds that little bit of safety I guess
Are you saying that you regret passing on an Xdrive because it didnt have Mdrive professional?

While I am waiting for my allocation, I am leaning on not choosing this option. Depends on the individuals intent and skill level. I dont view as a must have for all but if you plan on drifting and need to develop your abilities, then yes. There might be other reasons like you have. Since you used it in your MB, it might be something you want, if not just for piece of mind.
If you are building it, I would 100%. The ability to adjust traction switching into RWD is absolutely worth the $900 to me at least.
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Good point indeed, just trying to see if it should a deal breaker since I missed an opportunity to purchase one without this and living in regret haha.

$900 option that just adds that little bit of safety I guess
Are you saying that you regret passing on an Xdrive because it didnt have Mdrive professional?

While I am waiting for my allocation, I am leaning on not choosing this option. Depends on the individuals intent and skill level. I dont view as a must have for all but if you plan on drifting and need to develop your abilities, then yes. There might be other reasons like you have. Since you used it in your MB, it might be something you want, if not just for piece of mind.
There is zero traction control in 2WD mode for the AWD car without this. I had skipped it in the first spec sheet but added it in pretty fast because like most things you can't get it after the fact.
Oh for sure, if it's a custom build it's a no brainer for me.
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I am in the same boat as Gfit. Just dont when or why i would use it given the rear bias of the xdrive. For burnouts and donuts, its not needed
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My $.02. Since steering feel has been confirmed as exactly the same in xdrive and rear drive the only reason I would put it into rear drive mode is to drift and do burn outs. Personally, I've never done it, but I can't think of reason you would need traction control in RWD on an xdrive.
Exactly this reason is why I would recommend and want it. If you have zero intentions on getting even more spirited drifting the car, I wouldn't opt for this spec.

Personally, I love the rebellious U-turn and occasional drift but I haven't driven this car and only comparing to a AMG that had this brilliant option. When I would have traction off, the setting would sit around 4/5 just adding that tiny bit of support if even needed Might sound crazy, but for $900 it's a no brainer on a 90k car..

Mustang owners need this haha
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My $.02. Since steering feel has been confirmed as exactly the same in xdrive and rear drive the only reason I would put it into rear drive mode is to drift and do burn outs. Personally, I've never done it, but I can't think of reason you would need traction control in RWD on an xdrive.
Exactly this reason is why I would recommend and want it. If you have zero intentions on getting even more spirited drifting the car, I wouldn't opt for this spec.

Personally, I love the rebellious U-turn and occasional drift but I haven't driven this car and only comparing to a AMG that had this brilliant option. When I would have traction off, the setting would sit around 4/5 just adding that tiny bit of support if even needed Might sound crazy, but for $900 it's a no brainer on a 90k car..

Mustang owners need this haha
I have M3 xdrive. I did not select that option. I was skeptical when I placed my order just like OP but after driving the car, I don't think I'll ever use that traction control. This car is insane as it is… the limits are so high that I have to be extremely skilled and be at a track to experiment with 10 stages. I'm sure it's a good safety net to have if you will be experimenting but I don't think I'm going to. Even in MDM mode, there is enough play and frankly I'm enjoying the MDM mode.

Have had the car for just 2 days - those that are still waiting for their cars - believe me, it's worth your wait, it's that good.
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My $.02. Since steering feel has been confirmed as exactly the same in xdrive and rear drive the only reason I would put it into rear drive mode is to drift and do burn outs. Personally, I've never done it, but I can't think of reason you would need traction control in RWD on an xdrive.
Exactly this reason is why I would recommend and want it. If you have zero intentions on getting even more spirited drifting the car, I wouldn't opt for this spec.

Personally, I love the rebellious U-turn and occasional drift but I haven't driven this car and only comparing to a AMG that had this brilliant option. When I would have traction off, the setting would sit around 4/5 just adding that tiny bit of support if even needed Might sound crazy, but for $900 it's a no brainer on a 90k car..

Mustang owners need this haha
I have M3 xdrive. I did not select that option. I was skeptical when I placed my order just like OP but after driving the car, I don't think I'll ever use that traction control. This car is insane as it is… the limits are so high that I have to be extremely skilled and be at a track to experiment with 10 stages. I'm sure it's a good safety net to have if you will be experimenting but I don't think I'm going to. Even in MDM mode, there is enough play and frankly I'm enjoying the MDM mode.

Have had the car for just 2 days - those that are still waiting for their cars - believe me, it's worth your wait, it's that good.
Congrats!! And yes, safe driving out there fellas
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I got the M drive pro and there was no way I was skipping that option. Any feature that allows more control and extra variables to change the driving experience is worth it to me.
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I got the M drive pro and there was no way I was skipping that option. Any feature that allows more control and extra variables to change the driving experience is worth it to me.
But it is only functional in 2wd. Some of us have no intention to put in 2wd for a drift. Imho, its not a must have for most but understand may be for some
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I got the M drive pro and there was no way I was skipping that option. Any feature that allows more control and extra variables to change the driving experience is worth it to me.
But it is only functional in 2wd. Some of us have no intention to put in 2wd for a drift. Imho, its not a must have for most but understand may be for some
2wd is fun sometimes, no drifting required.
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Easier to control your power slide with variable traction. On other M cars, I’ve often wanted something a bit more aggressive than MDM to sustain a slide vs having it completely off.

With the traction set at a limit, you could put your foot down to the floor and the wheels won’t slip at more than a certain rate. You do that with traction off and the car will spin around or go in a direction with the tail out that’s harder to recover from.
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I got the M drive pro and there was no way I was skipping that option. Any feature that allows more control and extra variables to change the driving experience is worth it to me.
But it is only functional in 2wd. Some of us have no intention to put in 2wd for a drift. Imho, its not a must have for most but understand may be for some
I'm a car nerd. I love all the options that bmw is giving the driver. I'll mess around in all the different settings.
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^^ this. I find car setup fun. I have it and I plan to experiment with it. I will likely switch to rwd at the track and play with the different levels. We have a very similar system on the race cars. But I agree its not a must have.
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