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AM&S SA Road and Track test.
He tests and talks about many point of interests, such as brake by wire, 8AT, 10-level MDM, lag and boost threshold, sharpness of handling etc. Overall a positive review. Subtitles available.
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03-11-2021, 11:02 AM | #310 |
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You can say this about this about basically all M3s going back to the e46
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03-11-2021, 11:04 AM | #311 |
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The front end really grew on me. I like it naked or with the euro plate, but with the US license plate....not so much.
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How many M's have you owned? How many other cars to compare them with? Every generation cars get heavier and more insulated. This is driven by safety requirements, market preferences and manufacturers desire to broaden appeal/market reach. Every other manufacturer goes through the same process with their performance vehicles including Porsche, Ferrari, etc. Better numbers, less engagement. The M2 has now taken the place of the earlier M3's in BMW's lineup as a performance car with fewer compromises for daily use. Although the G8x is putting up impressive numbers, it is not as engaging to drive. I say this having owned a E36, E46, E90, F82, F10 and F90 iterations. The M3/4's mission has changed. It is now a performance car for people with families and responsibilities. No longer is it a toy with a ton of compromises in the name of performance. Nothing wrong with that either. |
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The S55 has a prettier engine bay than the S58.
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The M traction mode is what I was waiting since long time, something between "all off" and MDM. Great job Bmw. |
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Appreciate your detailed thoughts, I had a few responses I'll break out from my perspective.
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I often mistake the F8x generation for an m sport, Mercedes are impossible to tell apart and the same goes for Audis and their S line and RS line, though even they got more aggressive with the RS6/7 (well aggressive for Audi!). There's NO mistaking the M3/4 for a m340i this time. Yeah it may go against a few current customers but it's brought in new people like me. Quote:
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I'm so so glad they didn't just update the F80, but I get why you, and a lot of other owners, are not.
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There is no other direct competitor to the G80 that's better period and Porsche is not a direct competitor. There was always better cars for superior driving engagement than virtually all M cars. Unless to you the F80 being the first turbo M3 is what you call a pure driving experience.
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Wow in a world of hack-job influencer reviews and overproduced review films, this was very refreshing!
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That german review, he mentions a slight delay when shifting at redline that Harris mentioned (I don't think he's actually hitting the rev limiter as in the translation). Also not as fast as "PDK"
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All in all the reviews are as expected. Generally very positive with only 2 points that are critisized by multiple reviews : the look of the car and the switch to a automatic gearbox which is better for everyday driving but makes the car a bit too civilized for some. As i will only use the car for everyday driving i am confident that i will be very very happy with it.
For me the most important question that has been answered is the traction of the RWD competition version. Many including myself have doubted whether to take the RWD or wait for the AWD version. After these reviews i am happy i did not wait and took the RWD version. No real traction problems. Chris Harris even thought for the first couple of days that he was driving the AWD version already... Then the subjective looks criticism : in the 2nd half 1990's Mercedes Benz switched for the E-class from rectangular to round headlights. When i first saw the models with the new round headlights i really found the new cars totally hideous. A couple of years later i really liked them and i actually bought one.... I think the grille of the G80/82 is exactly the same story. When i first saw it i did also not like it. Now i love it... As i am very interested in this model i ofcourse saw the new grille much more than someone who only saw it once or twice in the press. I am really predicting that in a year from today the general consensus about the hideousness of the grille will have shifted dramatically.... |
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Definitely the best one for me so far... simple and pretty straight forward. Focusing on what car reviews are for, the CAR! |
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Might be a repost
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I genuinely think the AWD will be sub 3.4. Check out this comparison between the M4 and the RS5:
The RS5 absolutely crushes the M4 from a dig, which means that advertised 3.9 time is complete rubbish (and Carwow did an instrumented test where it did 3.9 in the soaking wet). Add to that my anecdotal experience of test driving one yesterday, where the entirety of the experience was "meh" EXCEPT for the launch, which took me by surprise and actually knocked the wind out of me. That RS5 is in the 3.5-3.6 range for sure. However, the M4 beats it from a roll, no contest. So if the xDrive hooks up the same as the Quattro system (big if), there's absolutely no way this thing doesn't pull close to M5's advertised numbers in the 0-60. Completely insane. Edit: C&D tested the RS5 at 3.5 to 60. I'm betting the M4 xDrive will do it in 3.3. Seriously. |
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That 124.7 mph trap speed is pretty impressive. The C8 Corvette does about 122 mph.
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