[somer]

Here's an interesting tidbit: While BMW engineers tell us that the 4 Series is designed to be sportier than the 3 Series, and it is in fact stiffened, the M GmbH performance division has taken another approach: They want the driving experience in the M3 and the M4 to be as similar as possible. And so that you're reminded how similar they are, they will be wearing the same big nose.

-Autoblog

God I wish we got the new Alpina B3 here.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by secretanchitman

Bring on the official reveal of the ugly grilles!!

BMW has repeatedly stated that the world premiere will be in September.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by mbanck

BMW has repeatedly stated that the world premiere will be in September.

Start of communication: September 2020.

February 2020 - BMW Welt (SOC = Start Of Communication) (source: here):

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by somer

-Autoblog

Bear in mind, they are not attributing that information to any official BMW source. It is merely their (correct) conclusion based on known information.

The point is, for anyone who is still clinging to (false) hope that the M3 will not share the M4 grill, that statement should do nothing to sway those (desperate) beliefs.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Bear in mind, they are not attributing that information to any official BMW source. It is merely their (correct) conclusion based on known information.

The point is, for anyone who is still clinging to (false) hope that the M3 will not share the M4 grill, that statement should do nothing to sway those (desperate) beliefs.

If they were let to drive an M3 (unclear at this point), they might've seen the startup graphics in the instrument cluster; that's how some other journalists figured out the 4er would have that nose while testing the prototypes.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by mbanck

If they were let to drive an M3...

They absolutely drove the M3. I recall reading in one of the write-ups in the compilation thread (that people seem to be mostly ignoring for some reason) - I think it might have been Autoblog's article - that they were trying to figure out a way to peak under the camo to verify the big grill was there.

[Mg.]

The roof of the M3... yeah, no, sorry, I prefer the classic double bubble over whatever the hell is happening now. This does not look sleek right now, I find.

[xlover]

These proper photos show what I think is one of the most important elements of the grill... the curved design. All of the renders and the awful shoot from the hip cell phone shots make the grills look upright and ridged. It's clear to me that the grills curve both towards and hood at the top and back towards the splitter at the bottom.

To those open minded about the design, In my opinion this element should bring the design together especially in 3 dimensions from a normal human vantage point. the haters, well I doubt there is any hope for them and they will keep posting dogs eye view from narrow angle lenses and puke emojis

[Hedoniste]

I just realized that the design of the front grill looks like a « M ».

[Artemis]

Early 2015 we discerned some design lines lying beneath the camouflage of the upcoming F87 M2 (see the dedicated thread here - "Visual analysis: BMW M2 getting several cues from the BMW Vision Concept GT6"). Taking a closer look at pictures of test mules gave away some clues.

BMW insider SCOTT26 commented back then:

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

They enjoy the debate and they use these comments to develop further disguises.

The G80 M3 / G82 M4 picture released by BMW includes the Easter Eggs "Nice Try" and "Nope":




OK, challenge accepted.

Original picture:


Let's have a look:


This enhanced picture also shows the muffler:








"Nice Try" (M logo location - trunk):



"Nope" (near headlights - driver's side):



Message for Mr. Markus Flasch: we salute you.

[eman4517]

Originally Posted by xlover

These proper photos show what I think is one of the most important elements of the grill... the curved design. All of the renders and the awful shoot from the hip cell phone shots make the grills look upright and ridged. It's clear to me that the grills curve both towards and hood at the top and back towards the splitter at the bottom.

To those open minded about the design, In my opinion this element should bring the design together especially in 3 dimensions from a normal human vantage point. the haters, well I doubt there is any hope for them and they will keep posting dogs eye view from narrow angle lenses and puke emojis

In the meantime, I'll just focus on the rear view and beautiful hips. (It's easier on the eyes for now). The rest will take some getting used to.

I believe the G80 is Toronto Red and the G82 Isle of Man Green (Car & Driver today)

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Law

This is essentially the first official hard confirmation of the G8x front grilles and should put a lot of the speculation to rest.

These are likely the colors Isle of Man Green Sao Paolo Yellow (from the known color list).

...does anyone know if Isle Of Man Green will be available in the G82 coupe?

[Colinv6]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Early 2015 we discerned some design lines lying beneath the camouflage of the upcoming F87 M2 (see the dedicated thread here - "Visual analysis: BMW M2 getting several cues from the BMW Vision Concept GT6"). Taking a closer look at pictures of test mules gave away some clues.

Blimey! That takes me back! 5 years ago lol

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Frosty

...does anyone know if Isle Of Man Green will be available in the G82 coupe?

None of the exterior colors will be exclusive to either body style.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

None of the exterior colors will be exclusive to either body style.

Thanks! Pleased to see SPY and IOMG will give green some love this generation outside of 'Individual'

[starbai]

I know I'm grasping at straws here.

But what are the odds that the M3 has a smaller grille thats more in the general shape/size/direction of the 3 Series while the M4 has the bigger massive grille more in line with the 4 Series?

I'm just really holding out hope that the M3 is ultimately different up front since we've still not seen the fronts of these cars unveiled. All the spy photos and the bumper pic where the olive green color is sticking out at on the prodcution line, it looks to me like an M4 not an M3.

Thoughts?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by starbai

But what are the odds that the M3 has a smaller grille thats more in the general shape/size/direction of the 3 Series

Those odds are essentially zero. Sorry.

while the M4 has the bigger massive grille more in line with the 4 Series?

The M4 will have exactly the grill that you can see in the photograph in the first post of this thread. That is fact. No need to classify it as being "more in line with" anything - it will be the grill that BMW has shown us (and the M3 will have that same grill, but that cannot yet be proven beyond all doubt).

[solstice]

Finally we are getting proper cannon barrels standard, perfect diameter!

As per the grill...the new teaser seem to not have a top to bottom color coded grill separation on the yellow M4? Is it one large grille element? That I wouldn’t like. Obviously not a deal breaker taken the rest of awesomeness but I prefer well defined kidneys.

[Law]

Originally Posted by starbai

I know I'm grasping at straws here.

But what are the odds that the M3 has a smaller grille thats more in the general shape/size/direction of the 3 Series while the M4 has the bigger massive grille more in line with the 4 Series?

I'm just really holding out hope that the M3 is ultimately different up front since we've still not seen the fronts of these cars unveiled. All the spy photos and the bumper pic where the olive green color is sticking out at on the prodcution line, it looks to me like an M4 not an M3.

Thoughts?

Sorry to report that the odds are close to nill.

The below photos of the G80 & G82 front 1/4 view are from BMW's most recent press release from yesterday.

I've intentially posted the full image in all its high-res glory below so that one can clearly see the headlamps and the hood shut line being completely identical across the G80 & G82.
Which again means, there is no chance the G80 will have a G20-esque grille.

We are stuck in the same predicament as some early pre-modern astronomers where all the math and formulations told them the earth was round, but we as humans never got unequivocal proof until the age of exploration, or maybe even until the space race, centuries later.

[OriginalFake]

Originally Posted by xlover

These proper photos show what I think is one of the most important elements of the grill... the curved design. All of the renders and the awful shoot from the hip cell phone shots make the grills look upright and ridged. It's clear to me that the grills curve both towards and hood at the top and back towards the splitter at the bottom.

To those open minded about the design, In my opinion this element should bring the design together especially in 3 dimensions from a normal human vantage point. the haters, well I doubt there is any hope for them and they will keep posting dogs eye view from narrow angle lenses and puke emojis

I'm excited. But then again, I've had no problem with these grills since they were introduced. I think it's going to look striking and aggressive, particularly in person.

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by starbai

I believe the M4 will have that huge grille. But I still hold out hope that the M3 will have something more toned down.

Since the M4 exists they always shared the front, so veeeeery unlikely that it's going to be different this time... unfortunately

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

They absolutely drove the M3. I recall reading in one of the write-ups in the compilation thread (that people seem to be mostly ignoring for some reason) - I think it might have been Autoblog's article - that they were trying to figure out a way to peak under the camo to verify the big grill was there.

Circling back on this, they have the X3M (or something like that?) avatar on the prototypes.