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      05-28-2020, 08:29 AM   #45
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I wish they'd confirm the G83 M4 Converible in manual already!

It's the only car I can imagine replacing my tuned E88.
you may be SOL.... ynguldyn inside info showed multiple configurations for the G80/G82 but his info says the G83 was looking to be available in a single configuration.

To my recollection it was not shared specifically what that config was but a reasonable assumption based on how M cars sell these days is competition/auto and I would guess xdrive but I could see xdrive/rwd going either way. On the other hand BMW seemed to be actively obscuring information to prevent leaks so there may still be hope for the G83/6MT
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      05-28-2020, 08:56 AM   #46
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No amount of good news will get me hype for this car. I can't get over how ugly it will look.
2 years later: "Guys I just picked up a new G80! Exterior has grown on me since it was first revealed and of all things it drives like a dream!"

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you may be SOL.... ynguldyn inside info showed multiple configurations for the G80/G82 but his info says the G83 was looking to be available in a single configuration.

To my recollection it was not shared specifically what that config was but a reasonable assumption based on how M cars sell these days is competition/auto and I would guess xdrive but I could see xdrive/rwd going either way. On the other hand BMW seemed to be actively obscuring information to prevent leaks so there may still be hope for the G83/6MT
Thanks for the info, I hope so. Otherwise an M3 would be a great consolation prize as well to replace the 4 door in the family.
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People hating the steering wheel. Where have you been for 2 years. Isn't a form of that wheel pretty much in every G' model MSport out there.

Nothing too new or scandalous revealed is there?
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I was planning to buy a G80 M3 strictly because of European Delivery. Now I think I'll just keep my M2C.

...those seats are cool though.
I'd keep the M2, non debatable.
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2 years later: "Guys I just picked up a new G80! Exterior has grown on me since it was first revealed and of all things it drives like a dream!"

Was there this much hate for the F80? The "G" much different story.
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2 years later: "Guys I just picked up a new G80! Exterior has grown on me since it was first revealed and of all things it drives like a dream!"

If BMW follows the M5 life cycle, there will be an LCI in a couple years with a front end "update"
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Was there this much hate for the F80? The "G" much different story.
The hate definitely centered around the S55.

A turbo engine, in my M3?!

The horrors...
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People hating the steering wheel. Where have you been for 2 years. Isn't a form of that wheel pretty much in every G' model MSport out there.

Nothing too new or scandalous revealed is there?
Uhhhhh new grill ... new steering wheel? Come on man, there's always hope ha.
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      05-28-2020, 11:04 AM   #54
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Was there this much hate for the F80? The "G" much different story.
There's always hate when there's a reveal...a little more or a little less won't make a difference.
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      05-28-2020, 11:27 AM   #55
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Here is my biggest concern. I am sure dynamically, the car will be better than the F8x platform.
I wouldn’t be that sure.

The F80 was BMW’s first attempt to make a true track worthy car, without any special limited editions necessary. It is a bit lighter than the E90, they fixed the cooling, reduced the understeer, allowed wider tire packages to fit, eliminated rubber bushings in the rear frame attachment, standard CF roof and other CF parts, etc.

The only miss-steps IMO are front seats without harness pass-through and perhaps the lack of sufficient camber up front. The last one is easily remedied via aftermarket.

So anyway, the new one will have the seats fixed, that’s great. But it will be again (unnecessarily so) bigger, and I can almost guarantee it will be heavier, even when comparing RWD models. The new engine is improved in some respects compared to the S55, perhaps more reliable (crank hub) but with many of the traditional accessories moved at the back, may prove to be more difficult to maintain over time. There are also some disturbing reports that the S58 has more lag down low than the S55, who knows.

I’m sure the AWD models will be quicker than the F8x cars, but better? That remains to be seen, and IMO it isn’t a slam dunk.


This is coming from a guy with 4 BMW’s in the driveway, 12 BMW’s owned so far, serial M owner, 6 Euro Deliveries done. I love the brand, I love the value proposition for a dual purpose DD-track car (say compared to Porsche), but so far and very much unlike the past there just isn’t anything in the new model screaming “Buy Me Now”.

I’m not even touching the looks category, I understand it is very personal.

Maybe an M2CS if they are reasonable in price, or next gen M2CS. No real fire to trade my car in the next few months...
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The hate definitely centered around the S55.

A turbo engine, in my M3?!

The horrors...
Yup, Engine down sizing, lower rev limit, EPS & FI a lot of “firsts” for the M3 tough pills to swallow with the F8X. More important concerns than the G8X grille for sure. The ZF is a valid concern for the non MT crowd though but nothing compared to the list of perceptive downgrades the F8X brought on.
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2 years later: "Guys I just picked up a new G80! Exterior has grown on me since it was first revealed and of all things it drives like a dream!"

Can you not fathom anyone who will not "grow" into it?
There's always that one guy in every thread, "yeah yeah you all hate it now but you'll love it later"

Do you think it's not possible that people just hate this new direction BMW is going and is jumping ship until they right the course?

This kind of comment is just backhanded belittling other peoples legitimate opinion.

Also why does one ever have to "grow into" this? This kind of cars are emotional purchases. If I don't love it at first sight, I'm not buying it.
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Can you not fathom anyone who will not "grow" into it?
There's always that one guy in every thread, "yeah yeah you all hate it now but you'll love it later"

Do you think it's not possible that people just hate this new direction BMW is going and is jumping ship until they right the course?

This kind of comment is just backhanded belittling other peoples legitimate opinion.

Also why does one ever have to "grow into" this? This kind of cars are emotional purchases. If I don't love it at first sight, I'm not buying it.
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Happy about the manual, but no Euro Delivery is a major bummer.
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Happy about the manual, but no Euro Delivery is a major bummer.
It’s a bummer hopefully it will make a return when COVID-19 is in the rear mirror. I think BMW underestimate to what level the experience create lifelong die hard fans. We’ll see but I’m not giving up on a return in a few years. I had planned for the the G82 to be my fifth. My first was in that little warehouse like building in Garching with the lady that bit your head off if you were 2min late when she called you up
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Current f80 owner. G8x has high potential to look like shit. But honestly it will probably look nice when it hits the streets....I will never purchase one or another modern sports car. Whatever happened to keys and NA v10s and sound. Lol. It the g8x just keeps normal Kidneys it will look stunning. the broken halos is a big no from me
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Was there this much hate for the F80? The "G" much different story.
There's always hate when there's a reveal...a little more or a little less won't make a difference.
It's really okay if others like or dislike. Like others I'll make a choice, or not.
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Current f80 owner. G8x has high potential to look like shit. But honestly it will probably look nice when it hits the streets....I will never purchase one or another modern sports car. Whatever happened to keys and NA v10s and sound. Lol. It the g8x just keeps normal Kidneys it will look stunning. the broken halos is a big no from me
Same boat as you. I'm actually very excited to do a custom E90 build further down the road. No interest in most of what BMW is putting out.
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You guys are absolutely going in on the new Ms. Is there anyone else like me who likes the new look, is ecstatic that there will be a manual option, and likes the damn steering wheel? I for one am excited
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Mark my words, most of you will be pleasantly surprised with performance of the new M3 and M4. It is likely that most will forget what some call quirkie looks. You can't expect BMW to tout an all new car that is designed like a from 10- 20 years ago.
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Mark my words, most of you will be pleasantly surprised with performance of the new M3 and M4. It is likely that most will forget what some call quirkie looks. You can't expect BMW to tout an all new car that is designed like a from 10- 20 years ago.
I don't know...it's worked for Porsche for basically 60 years!
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