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Didn't they also reassure that:
M cars were staying RWD? M cars are not going hybrid/electronic? They have already introduced Audi-ized M cars now with the M5 and since that they have also said future M cars may be hybrid or electric. They've also removed DCT gearboxes for cheaper and more ordinary 8 speed ZF gearboxes. So as for manuals? I'll believe it when I see it. The M division is not what it used to be...I hope for the best but see the reality.
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S4 is not a competitor for the M3/4. That's M340i area.
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You're trippin. BMW manuals are some of the best, along with Honda and Porsche.
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If I may chime in. I am driving MT for over 25 years. All mine M3/4 were MT and I drove Friends Honda S2000 and the first 911 7 speed MT Honda and Porsche are on top. As good as you can get the MT!!!! Bmw is not the best but not the worst either.
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It's not decided yet but looks like it will offer 10speed at the start. https://carbuzz.com/news/there-s-big...t5-v-blackwing
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28.5% in the US.The rest of the world, however, is abysmal.
https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1551939
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Whose market will get the manual cars? The US sales for manual cars is declining for sure. I valeted my car and had to retrieve it myself the other day because they only had 1 guy who could drive it and he had gone home. The new BMW buyers market certainly is not the traditional enthusiasts, seems more like old white males and middle aged women. Neither of which could be bothered with manually shifting gears. The manual car is dead in the states and dealers know that they'll sell 5 times more auto cars 5 times faster then the 6mt. So why would dealers spec them out?
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Don't forget M3 at the start and many generation was only offered with MT this is the legacy.....we don't want to lose yet. If you know how to drive manual you would understand. Knowing how to rev-match and when to shift is very enjoyable and satisfying to drive.
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