One less M4 CSL alive...

JK479 · 02-06-2023, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by reNT

There is a reason why bmw introduced the xdrive into their m cars once they've started to exceed 500hp. From what I've seen in the reviews, the CSL is not a very forgiving car to drive fast for noobies. With all that torque from the tuned up s58 going to the rear wheels only, it is very tail happy and can get out of hand quickly if the driver isn't on their A game.

The prior f80 RWD comp was downright dangerous. New G series feels a bit safer w/RWD. But this beast just had too much power for 500 hp and novice use.

Xdrive really makes the power more usable. I’ll never go back to RWD knowing a better alternative is here.

OwnerF16 · 02-06-2023, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Teutonic

Given the CSL niche, someone will fix it.

“For sale CSL, very rare, well maintained, gently used…”

Autobahn SoCal · 02-06-2023, 06:01 PM

ET……ouch….

Dgjo2022X5MC · 02-06-2023, 06:11 PM

Couple thoughts:

-hope they are ok
-if it was a tire temp issue that’s unfortunately a dumb mistake. The second that driver hit the gas those tires will slip. My F95 hops all over the place at 45 degrees. It’s like driving a hockey puck.
-I’ll speak for myself, but I don’t need more power, I need more driving skill! I spin out my F95 in autocross days if too hard on gas out of turns. And that’s in MDM mode so still some power to fronts.

Mr.blue · 02-06-2023, 06:39 PM

Wow!

oz555 · 02-06-2023, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

P = Poland?

Portugal for sure.

'Cane · 02-06-2023, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by oz555

Portugal for sure.

Thanks

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=29807051

M3ANSPEC · 02-06-2023, 07:23 PM

This is why we can’t have anything nice

MachinesWithSouls · 02-06-2023, 07:31 PM

I just want to bring up the point that you most definitely do not need all-wheel drive to feel safe or take full advantage of the G8X’s full abilities.

What you DO need is practice, training and a closed course. Spend your money here if you can.

kgelfen360 · 02-06-2023, 08:02 PM

Hoa · 02-06-2023, 09:56 PM

I used to work at an auto body shop. This is an easy repair. It will be expensive but repairable.

Ravenseal · 02-06-2023, 10:18 PM

Anyway

Ben M3Comp · 02-06-2023, 10:28 PM

Even my standard M3 Comp rear wheel drive can be a serious hand full with cold tyres and no TC, if you forget to warm them up and give it a boot full you can go around in a complete circle in a split second. Any RWD M3/M4 Comp is definitely not for a beginner driver!

M3 boi · 02-06-2023, 10:48 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z3QJ4L1Bg0

ColinL_UK · 02-06-2023, 11:35 PM

Well the front bumper remodel has improved things, looks much more resolved.

Simple · 02-07-2023, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Looks like there is one less CSL on the roads in the EU.

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Will buy the car as is, i need to find the contacts of the owner or someone message me on
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M3EATERS · 02-07-2023, 07:24 AM

They still wanted more weight reduction i guess🤣

BigEvan1923 · 02-07-2023, 09:16 AM

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goncalodpinto92 · 02-07-2023, 10:00 AM

Hi, yes this acciddent it was here in Portugal
i have seen the car
here we only received for now 4 of these (m4 csl), and now... this one is in BMW Porto (maybe to repair)

F85MTuNED · 02-07-2023, 01:12 PM

Pain…🥺

iviegatron · 02-07-2023, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

Not to mention, everyone and their mom wants to drive with T/C off, like they can drive like Ken Block.

Funny you mention this. I always drive with the traction on, especially on public roads. I know plenty folks who drive with the traction off just so they can say they drive with no traction control as if they are badasses. Few of them have gotten into a wreck for that very reason. I can tell you they are not professional drivers by any means. Keep traction control on folks, for your safety and others.

DavesZupra4 · 02-07-2023, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Looks like there is one less CSL on the roads in the EU.

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Man these people just don't know how to drive.

Bet he slammed on the throttle and didn't know he'd get torque steer and had he ACTUALLY known how to drive and wasn't a poser, and actually TRACKED the car. Hed know correcting torque steer is easy. Almost all the "loss of control" crashes I see is posers trying to accelerate in a straight line to pose (since that's all they can do, go straight), and yet somehow STILL fail at doing even that cuz they're so stupid. If you're car is veering right due to torque steer, just fuking correct it wjth opposite steer it's not even hard. These morons have more money than brains.

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