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01-29-2019, 04:36 PM | #156 |
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Well since I have not driven the new M5 nor the G80 I guess I can't say for sure.... but I assume I could tell the difference between AWD and RWD on those models. I guess I might find out someday. Currently while driving on the street in the M2 I prefer some safety net.
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You could also look at competitive pricing for a ballpark. Arbitrarily throwing 20% out doesn't seem right
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I agree. Everyone always says it's what they want but I want to see who actually buys it.
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01-29-2019, 08:57 PM | #159 | |
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Case in point, my 2018 S4 in dynamic mode feels just as "RWD" as my M3 when just tooling around town below 7/10. There's no front wheel slip, no torque steer, no strange throttle behavior in corners, etc.
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01-29-2019, 11:06 PM | #160 |
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The M5 Comp and M6 pre-LCI Comp had 575ps and 680nm torque. I can't see that the new M3/M4 will have more than either of those.
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440i RWD 6MT 1540kg 440i RWD 8AT 1555kg 440i AWD 6MT 1615kg 440i AWD 8AT 1630kg So 15kg extra from 6MT to 8AT and 75kg from RWD to AWD. 90kg or 200lbs. Ignoring every other possible spec difference of course which could be quite a bit.
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I am curious what the car will look like. Seems the power dome is gone. But I hope it looks aggressive and wide flared arches. That and ability for us to fit 335 rears and 295 fronts. no floating caliper in rear, an aggressive exhaust and telepathic steering with a factory developed with ohlin coil over kit and 400 mm Brembo GTR optional brakes. Carbon options for fenders, hood, doors and trunk. Option for the hanging balls exhaust delete and active aero with deep venturi tunnels.
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Being more in control of the transmission thus more connected to the car. Plenty of reasons to get an automatic None of them apply to me. O to 60 improvement from a car with 425hp+ Improved lap times I guess when it matters Bumper traffic More freedom with infotainment Easier to eat while driving / coffee Valet parking / loaning out your car |
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Which genius thought it would be okay to put less powered engine in Pure models?
Put F10 M5 6MT and DCT that currently handle 520 ft lbs of torque on RWD models. Problem solved.
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Haha still scary ... in my experience.
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However, I would be hesitant to assume at this point that the type of content that a Pure model gives up as standard will account for much in the way of tangible weight savings. We shall see. |
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M mmmmaybe haha don't do it !
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To me the power figures are secondary. More details on the powertrain would be how I make my decision. For example let's find out why one version has 444hp and the other 500hp...does one use a battery or water injection and the other does not?
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this thread just made the autoweek rumor mill...
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This one made me LOL the most: http://www.thedrive.com/news/26215/2...ompany-insider
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Why yes of course BMW has nothing better to do but put money into launching a product expecting it to fail just to laugh in your face about the numbers saying "they've told you so".
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