G80 M3 CS powertrain & production info: 540hp, automatic, xDrive, 3/2023 production

Higgs Boson · 08-09-2022, 08:33 PM

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This is the CSL, you have no idea if this transfers for the CS and it's likely it doesn't.

Looks like I wandered off and got lost. Disregard my last post.

ChiTownM · 09-13-2022, 10:18 AM

My turn to ask about an update - specs or at least production details.

Given the recent news of the LCI, the CS would look like a pre-LCI model if it is slated for early next year.

'Cane · 09-13-2022, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

Just going through the thread, this is some funny stuff.

RSXDC5 · 09-13-2022, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

Just going through the thread, this is some funny stuff.

It's still not wrong.

GixY2K · 09-13-2022, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

It's still not wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSXDC5

But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

I'm probably missing the point here, but a 5 month wait time would not be considered a failed exterior design approach.

RSXDC5 · 09-13-2022, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GixY2K

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

It's still not wrong.

Originally Posted by RSXDC5 View Post
But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

I'm probably missing the point here, but a 5 month wait time would not be considered a failed exterior design approach.

The failed design approach does not pivot off of time, it pivots off of design used. The design used is still horrible. The LCI could have been a redesigned front bumper at a min. Did that happen? Lol no.

Go on YouTube and watch automotive designers analyze the G8x, it's hilarious.

'Cane · 09-13-2022, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

Just going through the thread, this is some funny stuff.

It's still not wrong.

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Originally Posted by GixY2K

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSXDC5

It's still not wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSXDC5

But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

I'm probably missing the point here, but a 5 month wait time would not be considered a failed exterior design approach.

You're not missing the point, he's off his rocker. Thinks that because he dislikes the design, everyone does, and it a huge screwup on BMWs part.

RSXDC5 · 09-13-2022, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

Just going through the thread, this is some funny stuff.

It's still not wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GixY2K

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSXDC5

It's still not wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSXDC5

But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

I'm probably missing the point here, but a 5 month wait time would not be considered a failed exterior design approach.

You're not missing the point, he's off his rocker. Thinks that because he dislikes the design, everyone does, and it a huge screwup on BMWs part.

Hahahahaha that's made me laugh the hardest today. Good one.

Do I really need to spell out each individual component that is designed poorly?

This isn't rocket science.

'Cane · 09-13-2022, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

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Originally Posted by GixY2K

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

It's still not wrong.

Originally Posted by RSXDC5 View Post
But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

I'm probably missing the point here, but a 5 month wait time would not be considered a failed exterior design approach.

The failed design approach does not pivot off of time, it pivots off of design used. The design used is still horrible. The LCI could have been a redesigned front bumper at a min. Did that happen? Lol no.

Go on YouTube and watch automotive designers analyze the G8x, it's hilarious.

Failed, in the eyes of a few, maybe, but not in the many (tens of thousands by now?) that are buying, waiting for allocations, and enjoying.

'Cane · 09-13-2022, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSXDC5

But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

Just going through the thread, this is some funny stuff.

It's still not wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GixY2K

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSXDC5

It's still not wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSXDC5

But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

I'm probably missing the point here, but a 5 month wait time would not be considered a failed exterior design approach.

You're not missing the point, he's off his rocker. Thinks that because he dislikes the design, everyone does, and it a huge screwup on BMWs part.

Hahahahaha that's made me laugh the hardest today. Good one.

Do I really need to spell out each individual component that is designed poorly?

This isn't rocket science.

You do, but please show the class your diploma in automotive design/engineering, preferably a Masters or PhD. We'll wait.

RSXDC5 · 09-13-2022, 02:41 PM

Front bumper grill
Front bumper angles and cutoffs without transitions
No hoffmeister link
G80 rear fender flares are offset and pinched near the door on the front side
Rear fender flare is shaped incorrectly and slightly box-y
Rear bumper center section pokes out very far
Rear bumper 3/4 view has multiple angles not intersecting correctly
M perf Rear diffuser looks like it was made in preschool
Size gain for a 3 series
Weight gain for a 3 series
No dct
No true rear caliper

'Cane · 09-13-2022, 02:46 PM

Those are just opinions. Your opinions. You can keep whining about it though, it's pretty entertaining.

yousefnjr · 09-13-2022, 02:47 PM

No need to feed, leave him to his salt

RSXDC5 · 09-13-2022, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

Those are just opinions. Your opinions. You can keep whining about it though, it's pretty entertaining.

Haha these are facts dude, and the design based one's are literally shared by actual automotive designers.

I'm sorry you can't see it, probably why you bought a g8x though.

'Cane · 09-13-2022, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

Those are just opinions. Your opinions. You can keep whining about it though, it's pretty entertaining.

Haha these are facts dude, and the design based one's are literally shared by actual automotive designers.

I'm sorry you can't see it, probably why you bought a g8x though.

Oooh, burn.

Go back the F8X forum (or wherever you trolled in here from) troll.

RSXDC5 · 09-13-2022, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

Those are just opinions. Your opinions. You can keep whining about it though, it's pretty entertaining.

Haha these are facts dude, and the design based one's are literally shared by actual automotive designers.

I'm sorry you can't see it, probably why you bought a g8x though.

Oooh, burn.

Go back the F8X forum (or wherever you trolled in here from) troll.

Again, these are just facts, no trolling at all.

vj123 · 09-13-2022, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

Oooh, burn.

Go back the F8X forum (or wherever you trolled in here from) troll.

OP will be complaining in the below thread soon!

Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks? - https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1761187

GixY2K · 09-13-2022, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

The failed design approach does not pivot off of time, it pivots off of design used. The design used is still horrible. The LCI could have been a redesigned front bumper at a min. Did that happen? Lol no.

Go on YouTube and watch automotive designers analyze the G8x, it's hilarious.

I see where you're coming from.

GixY2K · 09-13-2022, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vj123

OP will be complaining in the below thread soon!

Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks? - https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1761187

Wow, it's a cult.

I remember a similar scenario where millions of people where complaining about a particular someone that was "arguably" out performing his predecessors, but was not behaving in a specific manner. So now they have someone who DOES behave in a certain specific manner, and all went to hell...

Maybe we're entering a "Looks > Performance" era/culture/generation

I'm personally all about performance 1st. That is why I went with the G82. And in a way, I'm glad that I had no prior affiliation with the BMW culture, otherwise, I'd probably be protesting as well ;/

vj123 · 09-13-2022, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GixY2K

Wow, it's a cult.

I remember a similar scenario where millions of people where complaining about a particular someone that was "arguably" out performing his predecessors, but was not behaving in a specific manner. So now they have someone who DOES behave in a certain specific manner, and all went to hell...

Maybe we're entering a "Looks > Performance" era/culture/generation

I'm personally all about performance 1st. That is why I went with the G82. And in a way, I'm glad that I had no prior affiliation with the BMW culture, otherwise, I'd probably be protesting as well ;/

If i dislike something, I wouldn't waste my time in a forum dedicated for it. You can see that most people complaining about looks are not in the market for a G8x or own a previous generation and wants to make a point that theirs is the best.

2SG5 · 09-13-2022, 06:41 PM

imo, I believe there is still a chance they do a minor front end re-design. The G80 and G82 share the same front end. Im willing to bet that when they do the "LCI" for the G82 for MY2024 thats when you will see slight changes to the front of the G80 as well.

beden1 · 09-13-2022, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

The failed design approach does not pivot off of time, it pivots off of design used. The design used is still horrible. The LCI could have been a redesigned front bumper at a min. Did that happen? Lol no.

Go on YouTube and watch automotive designers analyze the G8x, it's hilarious.

This is just a matter of opinion, and while I don't agree with yours, it's your right as an American to be wrong.

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