[breezyrc15]

Originally Posted by Cartman417209

How is 0-60 only 3.2

BMW is always conservative with their performance figures. I would estimate a 0-60 closer to 2.8x seconds!

[Afam28]

Is 30.5 psi on stock turbos not high to everyone?
Legitimate question!

[BackOnBlack]

Originally Posted by Greer

Get ready for the market adjustment pricing with a $25K bump over msrp.

Initially they may state that and even more at some dealerships, but if one waits a tad, the ADMs will come down significantly, especially for customers that are ready with their money. You may not get the exact color you want, but deals will be there to be made, IMHO.

M3CS ADMs wasn't as bad as it is made out to be on these forums, but sure there were some exceptions.

[willyp]

Originally Posted by Emtoo

BMW Is doing some very artistic and creative alignment of Nurburgring times vs Product positioning and goals by artificially giving the M3 CS a ‘slower’ lap time than it is capable of.

When you look at the times for the M3 CS versus the M4 CS The smoke and mirrors would suggest that the M4 CS is a wildly more capable car. However, when you compare the cars side-by-side they are very close to identical in power, size, weight and every other relevant area apart from a difference in number of doors.

BMW is simultaneously annoying its current M3 CS customers by falsely telling the world that their cars are so much slower than an M4 CS, and annoying its prospective M4 CS customers by trying to fool them into thinking that an M4 CS is so much faster than an M3 CS. The truth is that that both cars on same tyres, driver, track and time of day will produce a near identical track time.


BMW quotes the

M4 CS at 7:21.99
M3 CS at 7:28.76

Give me a break……

Its the same car lol. I cant help but think that debacle at the lightning lap has something to do with this decision... Cant mess it up this way, also allows them to get better tires on them for their official Nurburgring lap.

[Gottagofast]

Originally Posted by Emtoo

BMW Is doing some very artistic and creative alignment of Nurburgring times vs Product positioning and goals by artificially giving the M3 CS a ‘slower’ lap time than it is capable of.

When you look at the times for the M3 CS versus the M4 CS The smoke and mirrors would suggest that the M4 CS is a wildly more capable car. However, when you compare the cars side-by-side they are very close to identical in power, size, weight and every other relevant area apart from a difference in number of doors.

BMW is simultaneously annoying its current M3 CS customers by falsely telling the world that their cars are so much slower than an M4 CS, and annoying its prospective M4 CS customers by trying to fool them into thinking that an M4 CS is so much faster than an M3 CS. The truth is that that both cars on same tyres, driver, track and time of day will produce a near identical track time.


BMW quotes the

M4 CS at 7:21.99
M3 CS at 7:28.76

Give me a break……

"7:13.497 - BMW M4 CSL - 2023-09-01 - 7:18.137 on 20.832m configuration of track - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R"

"7:17.215 - BMW M4 CS - 2024-?-? - 7:21.989 on 20.832m configuration of track - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R"

"7:23.975 - BMW M3 CS - 2023-08-31 - 7:28.760 on 20.832m configuration of track - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2"

Tires make all the difference in this game.

[Scott_56]

Cool color 🔥❤️

[Schn3ll]

https://www.motor1.com/news/719326/p...-debut-may-28/

[BimmerGuyFL78]

The 4-series/M4 LCI headlights look like a step backward. I do not like those slits they now use for the quad headlight look. There's only one light beam element where as before they had two light beam elements functioning as the real dual headlights. BMW keeps making cuts on their cars where they're not as desirable as they once were.

[bjcarls]

Lurker and don't keep up-to-date but back in the day 30.5 psi was insane and not coming from a street car. I have to get some seat time in a new generation M3/4.

[M4Tejas]

Originally Posted by Han4mi

Not enough differences between this and an M4 Competition xDrive with CS software. Some suspension changes, CF hood, mostly software differences. Unless you're a collector this isn't worth the extra cost., imho.

Is the hood functional or just for looks.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Gottagofast

Where

The

Hell

Are

My

Goddamn

CUP HOLDERS!?!??!??!?

Yeah I know we’re not supposed to, but I put a spare GoPro battery in there for track days. It’s buried under the usb cables so it doesn’t go flying. Now we don’t even get an armrest, so I have to put it alllll the waaaaay in the glove box.

[BlueBeamer]

Is this going to move up to a sticky?