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      12-11-2021, 09:43 PM   #89
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It looks much better but it's not amazing. It cannot be hard to make a bumper that looks like a proper evolution of the F80 cmon.
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It’ll be hard for an aftermarket company to beat BMW’s 9-figure design team. The details are where this falls short compared to the extreme polish of an OEM design penned by the world’s most talented artists and 3D modelers.

I prefer the OEM design by a lot. The OEM design is fantastic and enjoyable to look at and has massive presence and novelty and appeals to lots of people based on the sheer volume of random, unsolicited compliments I got during my 4 months with my first G82.
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The bottom of the bumper needs to be more smooth, less of those indentation in my opinion.
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      12-11-2021, 10:16 PM   #92
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BMW design team takes the W.

They disqualified every single small grille design proposal when developing G80/82.

Good effort though.
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Yeah, i dunno bro, the splash page of the biggest BMW homer forum on the interwebs shows 2 different 'fixes' for the front fender…..if you can find any similar post(s) from a prior gen, happy to look at it with you….But, as i recall (like, from being there at the time), most of the 'mods' discussions on prior gens were about sound, performance or mild visual effects, not a wholesale re-do of the front.

That's great it is selling well (though i guess I'll need sales numbers, not 'how many months it took to receive' to make that really stick). But something can sell in spite of how it looks, not because of it you know…..
Its already setting sales records for the M3 even with the chip shortage. This is well known. Try and get an allocation. It ain’t easy. I get it. The purists don’t like it. It is successful despite that. Just like the new Corvette being successful despite the Vett purists being unhappy about the changes.

Either way this grille conversation is getting stupid. I’m sure we can all agree on that. At least the reasonable non trolls and people that like it can.
Lol stop. Just stop.
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      12-11-2021, 10:26 PM   #94
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Lol stop. Just stop.
Pills, whisky and self help tapes. You’ll feel better and learn to deal with the G8X’s success. And you could frequent a different sub-forum and stop trolling here.
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      12-11-2021, 10:38 PM   #95
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….but it sure tells you something about the current design that there are so many options starting to pop up to 'fix' it. Don't recall a million 'fix the look of the car!' Options on previous generations….


That's not true at all. If it were the G8X would not be selling like it is. I'm afraid you guys are just going to have to admit you are in the extreme minority now. I suggest as I always do pills, whiskey and self-help tapes. If that doesn't work there's always cutting yourself off completely from social media until you learn how to cope with the situation.
Honestly, the selling out argument is weak in these times. Allocations are lowered which causes a ripple effect.
I don't think it's a weak position at all. People don't generally spend $80k+ on something they don't like (…although G8X critics would love to suggest otherwise). People will barely spend $10 on something they don't like, but we're expected to presume that buyers purchase G8X's they don't like because there's nothing else to buy?!? That's just ridiculously asinine logic. Just because the industry is affected by a shortage is irrelevant. I can go to an Alfa Romeo dealership right now, for example, and have a nice selection to choose from. Why? Because the cars aren't sought after, chip shortage or not.
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      12-11-2021, 10:59 PM   #96
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….but it sure tells you something about the current design that there are so many options starting to pop up to 'fix' it. Don't recall a million 'fix the look of the car!' Options on previous generations….


That's not true at all. If it were the G8X would not be selling like it is. I'm afraid you guys are just going to have to admit you are in the extreme minority now. I suggest as I always do pills, whiskey and self-help tapes. If that doesn't work there's always cutting yourself off completely from social media until you learn how to cope with the situation.
Honestly, the selling out argument is weak in these times. Allocations are lowered which causes a ripple effect.
I don't think it's a weak position at all. People don't generally spend $80k+ on something they don't like (…although G8X critics would love to suggest otherwise). People will barely spend $10 on something they don't like, but we're expected to presume that buyers purchase G8X's they don't like because there's nothing else to buy?!? That's just ridiculously asinine logic. Just because the industry is affected by a shortage is irrelevant. I can go to an Alfa Romeo dealership right now, for example, and have a nice selection to choose from. Why? Because the cars aren't sought after, chip shortage or not.
Lol it's absolutely weak and I definitely never said every owner dislikes the front grill.

Plenty of people purchase cars that they do not aesthetically enjoy because of other things like hmmmmm performance? Additionally, the G8X absolutely has an upgraded interior which is more important to people than the exterior. This is a fact.

That said, if you don't know that these numbers are skewed because of what world we live in today then I'm not sure what to say other than any time a product is deemed to be scarce, demand goes up. Look at any market and follow the trends and see how similar they are to cars as a whole right now including your beloved G8X. I'm not saying this to say for a fact that the G8X wouldn't sell as good in a normal economy. Id be lying. But to act like this car is selling like hotcakes and not acknowledge that we are being sold exclusiveness is a joke.
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      12-11-2021, 11:04 PM   #97
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….but it sure tells you something about the current design that there are so many options starting to pop up to 'fix' it. Don't recall a million 'fix the look of the car!' Options on previous generations….


That's not true at all. If it were the G8X would not be selling like it is. I'm afraid you guys are just going to have to admit you are in the extreme minority now. I suggest as I always do pills, whiskey and self-help tapes. If that doesn't work there's always cutting yourself off completely from social media until you learn how to cope with the situation.
Honestly, the selling out argument is weak in these times. Allocations are lowered which causes a ripple effect.
I don't think it's a weak position at all. People don't generally spend $80k+ on something they don't like (…although G8X critics would love to suggest otherwise). People will barely spend $10 on something they don't like, but we're expected to presume that buyers purchase G8X's they don't like because there's nothing else to buy?!? That's just ridiculously asinine logic. Just because the industry is affected by a shortage is irrelevant. I can go to an Alfa Romeo dealership right now, for example, and have a nice selection to choose from. Why? Because the cars aren't sought after, chip shortage or not.
Lol it's absolutely weak and I definitely never said every owner dislikes the front grill.

Plenty of people purchase cars that they do not aesthetically enjoy because of other things like hmmmmm performance? Additionally, the G8X absolutely has an upgraded interior which is more important to people than the exterior. This is a fact.

That said, if you don't know that these numbers are skewed because of what world we live in today then I'm not sure what to say other than any time a product is deemed to be scarce, demand goes up. Look at any market and follow the trends and see how similar they are to cars as a whole right now including your beloved G8X. I'm not saying this to say for a fact that the G8X wouldn't sell as good in a normal economy. Id be lying. But to act like this car is selling like hotcakes and not acknowledge that we are being sold exclusiveness is a joke.
You're adding conversational elements that weren't part of the conversation; non-sequitur statements. I don't know that "plenty" of people spend THOUSANDS and commit to ownership of anything they don't like. People who behave like that are outliers. Everything is scarce right now, from Toyota Corolla's to luxury automobiles, but not everything is selling at the same rate (…hence my Alfa Romeo example).
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      12-11-2021, 11:04 PM   #98
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I think it looks pretty good.
Only thing is the missing frame of the kidney grills.
Frameless grill opening is unique to the G80/82/83 while all other models have the frames.
This!! I couldn't quite put my finger on it but you've nailed it. The grill frame would take the design to the next level

If this frontend gets released, then there is a strong likelihood the "F" in my username will turn to a "G"

The hood still looks terrible to me but maybe LCI will address that aspect

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….but it sure tells you something about the current design that there are so many options starting to pop up to 'fix' it. Don't recall a million 'fix the look of the car!' Options on previous generations….


That's not true at all. If it were the G8X would not be selling like it is. I'm afraid you guys are just going to have to admit you are in the extreme minority now. I suggest as I always do pills, whiskey and self-help tapes. If that doesn't work there's always cutting yourself off completely from social media until you learn how to cope with the situation.
Honestly, the selling out argument is weak in these times. Allocations are lowered which causes a ripple effect.
I don't think it's a weak position at all. People don't generally spend $80k+ on something they don't like (…although G8X critics would love to suggest otherwise). People will barely spend $10 on something they don't like, but we're expected to presume that buyers purchase G8X's they don't like because there's nothing else to buy?!? That's just ridiculously asinine logic. Just because the industry is affected by a shortage is irrelevant. I can go to an Alfa Romeo dealership right now, for example, and have a nice selection to choose from. Why? Because the cars aren't sought after, chip shortage or not.
Lol it's absolutely weak and I definitely never said every owner dislikes the front grill.

Plenty of people purchase cars that they do not aesthetically enjoy because of other things like hmmmmm performance? Additionally, the G8X absolutely has an upgraded interior which is more important to people than the exterior. This is a fact.

That said, if you don't know that these numbers are skewed because of what world we live in today then I'm not sure what to say other than any time a product is deemed to be scarce, demand goes up. Look at any market and follow the trends and see how similar they are to cars as a whole right now including your beloved G8X. I'm not saying this to say for a fact that the G8X wouldn't sell as good in a normal economy. Id be lying. But to act like this car is selling like hotcakes and not acknowledge that we are being sold exclusiveness is a joke.
You're adding conversational elements that weren't part of the conversation; non-sequitur statements. I don't know that "plenty" of people spend THOUSANDS and commit to ownership of anything they don't like. People who behave like that are outliers. Everything is scarce right now, from Toyota Corolla's to luxury automobiles, but not everything is selling at the same rate (…hence my Alfa Romeo example).
No I'm not and

I've been around long enough to not engage in a conversation with a person that's not receptive to things. Have a good one.
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Lol stop. Just stop.
Pills, whisky and self help tapes. You’ll feel better and learn to deal with the G8X’s success. And you could frequent a different sub-forum and stop trolling here.
It's the front page bud, no one is trolling your beloved forum. The stock grill looks like shit. This looks better. Some agree, some don't, that's how opinions and the internet work.

If this grill gets manufactured, or something similar to it or the 5/6/8 styling, I'll probably buy it, assuming we won't get the wagon in the US.
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Interestingly my issue with the G80/G82 isn't so much about the grill, as it is about the lower part of the bumper that is C-shaped that wraps to the other side (looks like a wide U-shaped smile). Personally, this is the worst part of the front end design. I wish these lines continue to move towards the sides of the bumper, rather than curving inward. I think it would look so much more aggressive.

I agree. It took a while but I realised these chubby cheeks are my biggest problem with the car. It doesn't work.
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The G8x used car market is going to be a hoot with a half dozen different bumpers to choose from
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I think the prior design one has a better shape.

This is a solid effort though.

For the people saying the "purists" are unhappy - no, this is just an ugly face.

Call it aggressive. That's ok. It is. And in satin black or black, it looks menacing.

But any other colour...it's just not instantly aesthetically pleasing from a design perspective.

The face does look better in person up close, but ugly from far in real life. It's so weird how the depth and curvature of the grill isn't captured from far even in real life.

It's like someone who is decent, and maybe even good looking, but isn't photogenic. They look decent/good in real life - but shit in pics.
It is what it is.
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I appreciate the effort, but every single one of these design changes offered by the aftermarket look worse than the OEM product.
I tend to agree with you
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Imagine paying 100k+ for a car just to pay another 10k to switch the front bumper🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Imagine paying 100k+ for a car just to pay another 10k to switch the front bumper🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's quite the ridiculous exercise, isn't it?!?
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PRIOR DESIGN KIT is the only way to go imo
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The grill is not the problem of the M3/4.
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