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I hope they don't make people pay for the modified spring seats up front. They released a video on why the springs take a long time to settle and guess what?? They don't settle more...bunch of BS. They had this same issue on the VW MK7 platform..
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I got an email from Imran @ evolve. He will discuss with MSS about the availability of the new Extra Low kit. Stay tuned. |
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02-15-2022, 09:54 AM | #95 |
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We are not getting the “Free upgraded kit”
Here is the response from Imran@Evolve The product is a new product not a technical "update" to the original product. MSS are not providing it to us for free or anyone else as far as they have informed me. We are not able to a new provide upgrade a product for free if we are paying for it. I am not sure why we would be expected to do so? Are you saying IND and Turn14 (both the largest US dealers for this product) are also providing this product for no cost at all as I haven't seen anything from them regarding this? Imran |
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02-15-2022, 09:58 AM | #97 |
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I thought for a moment that MSS and Evolve were stepping up and providing free revised kits for the early adopters, because their claim of 30 ± 3mm of front drop is simply not achievable without significant modification (where you remove the adjusters all together). I guess I thought too highly of them. Reason why I chose the MSS on my F87C and the G82 is because of their front adjuster/spring design that made the installation more simple, and the fact that they actively communicate with forum members. Sorry to say I won't be buying another MSS product going forward. For sure. |
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I don't blame Evolve but they should be pressuring MSS to make this right People bought the kit under the pretence that it would settle after 2k miles and it hasn't. It's clearly an issue given the fact there is an update available It's bad publicity, if it was my business I would be making it right. It'll work out a lot better in the long run than charging a small few people $460 for the update. Who is actually going to pay that? I couldn't do it on principle, I'd rather spend the money on a KW kit and be done with it |
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I think they did the hack up front and didnt disclose
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Imran is just another asshat. It's obvious that he did the lower adjuster trick when he advertised the MSS springs. No car ended up lowering that much. And then there was the 2000 mile settling claim. Absolutely pathetic!
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Our car had no tricks. It had the kit from MSS and fitted in the normal way. I've been in this industry for 15 years with an exceptional reputation and don't appreciate people claiming I've committed some kind of fraud like Mr 720s is quite clearly accusing me of here. I believe that is also known as libel. I've spoken to MSS at length about this. They have told me they are not providing a free update to the new product. They confirm the product they released is the product as tested on our car. Here is our car with the extra low version. You can see the ride height is slightly lower than before. It also now scrapes on my drive way and agressive speed humps where it didn't before. Original Kit Players Classic 2021 by Evolve Automotive, on Flickr Extra Low Kit Evolve x BMW Park Lane by Evolve Automotive, on Flickr |
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Imran@Evolve thank you for the update. Any reason why the other US distributors are giving this for free? If true, I don’t see why we should buy the kit from you.
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We have to pay MSS for this new product as an upgrade so it looks like you expect us as the retailer to swallow the cost? It is another set of springs - not just some PU seats. If it is the case that every US distributor is providing it for free then we will reconsider our position as a gesture of goodwill. |
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I hardly notice any height difference between the two. The first one seems lower tbh. |
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