Is Current G80/M3 Market Justifying $5K ADM?

Mark Kez · 03-13-2023, 10:45 PM

I must be using the wrong dealership, MSRP on my last two G83’s and not a whiff of a discount anywhere I’ve looked here in the NE except for a $500 loyalty rebate!! You all are good!!

Boogie2121 · 03-13-2023, 11:19 PM

I/my admin called 196 dealers across the country the last 7 days to find a 2024 M4 Xdrive Comp allocation as I wanted to order an individual color.

Results
-190 No we do not
-6 Yes, for 1-5K over MSRP
-1 Yes, MSRP

Next Level Auto Brokers is the person who helped me find what dealers actually had allocations. One of them got it done for me and got my individual color accepted today.

I was hoping for a 2-3k discount but that was not a reality. Maybe it was for a brief time in February or for cars on the lot. But allocations seem to have smaller #s than I expected.

gc.g80brg · 03-14-2023, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Boogie2121

I/my admin called 196 dealers across the country the last 7 days to find a 2024 M4 Xdrive Comp allocation as I wanted to order an individual color.

Results
-190 No we do not
-6 Yes, for 1-5K over MSRP
-1 Yes, MSRP

Next Level Auto Brokers is the person who helped me find what dealers actually had allocations. One of them got it done for me and got my individual color accepted today.

I was hoping for a 2-3k discount but that was not a reality. Maybe it was for a brief time in February or for cars on the lot. But allocations seem to have smaller #s than I expected.

Dam... I got 3% off my G80 M3C individual and got allocation 2 weeks after deposit ! But here in Canada we got the luxury tax :/

breezyrc15 · 03-14-2023, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Boogie2121

I/my admin called 196 dealers across the country the last 7 days to find a 2024 M4 Xdrive Comp allocation as I wanted to order an individual color.

Results
-190 No we do not
-6 Yes, for 1-5K over MSRP
-1 Yes, MSRP

Next Level Auto Brokers is the person who helped me find what dealers actually had allocations. One of them got it done for me and got my individual color accepted today.

I was hoping for a 2-3k discount but that was not a reality. Maybe it was for a brief time in February or for cars on the lot. But allocations seem to have smaller #s than I expected.

this sounds like an ad for next level brokers

i called my local dealer and got an allocation within 2 weeks

Boogie2121 · 03-14-2023, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by breezyrc15

this sounds like an ad for next level brokers

i called my local dealer and got an allocation within 2 weeks

That’s awesome but I tried that and it didn’t work. I have like 2 threads and 3 posts asking for help on allocation.

I asked him for help and he sent me who to call after I called a bunch already.

I want to do PCD in summer when the kids are off school and an individual color. Not the easiest parameters.

I am where I am in life because I am not afraid to give credit to people who add value.

86zccrx · 03-14-2023, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boogie2121

That’s awesome but I tried that and it didn’t work. I have like 2 threads and 3 posts asking for help on allocation.

I asked him for help and he sent me who to call after I called a bunch already.

I want to do PCD in summer when the kids are off school and an individual color. Not the easiest parameters.

I am where I am in life because I am not afraid to give credit to people who add value.

I didn't use them, but I agree that they are offering a service at a fairly reasonable price and at least you are giving the money to somebody who is actually performing a service and not just a greedy dealer.
In the end, I understand why people play ADMs and wouldn't fault anybody who does, I just personally wouldn't since I don't agree with the practice.

geko29 · 03-14-2023, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BenJ

For Individual color M3's, I still see there being markups and $5k is what I've seen as the norm. My dealer had a $5k markup on my M3 for being BRG and the additional time to get it, exclusivity, factory accepting the color, blah blah blah. My dealer has a couple non-individual color M3's on the lot, or they did last I checked, and they were all at MSRP.

Just to clarify, since Individual paint already costs $4500, are you saying you paid $9500 more for your car than you would have if it was AW or SPY?

GixY2K · 03-14-2023, 02:28 PM

It's even harder to justify ADM when you have already scratched that itch with one that I paid MSRP and was available in Sep. '21; same day I stopped to see BMWs at the dealership.

My dealership already knocked down $2.5K off of the $5K ADM on a unspoken allocation. I told them to let me know when they start talking MSRP or below.

Funny thing is, by then, I probably would have realized that I don't really need to dump another $110K on a car that caused me so much stress and grief driving it in Crazy Colorado Springs (pot holes, accidents, debris, hail, etc.); I'm too OCD w/ my cars

BenJ · 03-14-2023, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by geko29

Just to clarify, since Individual paint already costs $4500, are you saying you paid $9500 more for your car than you would have if it was AW or SPY?

Yes and no. Yes paid a $5k over for the car and it did have the $4,500 for the BRG, but the allocation was already in and close to going in to production so I was also paying for not having to wait X additional months for an allocation. Additionally, the dealer did PPF film on the front half of the car (about a $2-3k expense here locally), and that was included in that $5k ADM.

Next Level Auto Brokers · 03-14-2023, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Boogie2121

That’s awesome but I tried that and it didn’t work. I have like 2 threads and 3 posts asking for help on allocation.

I asked him for help and he sent me who to call after I called a bunch already.

I want to do PCD in summer when the kids are off school and an individual color. Not the easiest parameters.

I am where I am in life because I am not afraid to give credit to people who add value.

We are buddies now after he bought my x7 m50 last year!

He made the process super easy for me back then so I was happy to help him search for an m4...it was 4 clicks and no charge

Thanks for the shout out!

Lauren8 · 07-28-2023, 08:30 PM

I just been offer MSRP for a brand new 2023 M3. I'm in Socal. The dealer said if I pass on the car, there are two customers in line that want the car and willing to pay $5k ADM and all cash. Should I pass?

kgelfen360 · 07-28-2023, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lauren8

I just been offer MSRP for a brand new 2023 M3. I'm in Socal. The dealer said if I pass on the car, there are two customers in line that want the car and willing to pay $5k ADM and all cash. Should I pass?

Where is the car ? In stock / on the boat ?
Most 2023 models are either at the dealer or about to be there.
If you are talking about car that will go into production it’s 2024.

Clearly if they are offering to you at MSRP NOBODY is willing to pay $5K ADM becuase it would make zero sense for dealer to offer it to you when someone will $5k that they can pocket. So sounds like sales pitch to me.

Lauren8 · 07-29-2023, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kgelfen360

Where is the car ? In stock / on the boat ?
Most 2023 models are either at the dealer or about to be there.
If you are talking about car that will go into production it’s 2024.

Clearly if they are offering to you at MSRP NOBODY is willing to pay $5K ADM becuase it would make zero sense for dealer to offer it to you when someone will $5k that they can pocket. So sounds like sales pitch to me.

Car is at dealer, arrived yesterday.

kgelfen360 · 07-29-2023, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lauren8

Car is at dealer, arrived yesterday.

So I guess I don’t understand why you asking people here if u should buy car that’s available?
Sounds like personal decision.

eric9610 · 07-29-2023, 12:17 PM

Inventory is starting to accumulate at dealers. All my local dealers have 2-5 M3 in stock. The dealer I have bought 20+ cars from is giving a 10% discount if I want an M3c and allocation immediately just the wait from production to dealer, Leasing this car so no funny business on payment. I am holding off till mid next year on placing the order as I think the car market will be hurting.

kgelfen360 · 07-29-2023, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eric9610

Inventory is starting to accumulate at dealers. All my local dealers have 2-5 M3 in stock. The dealer I have bought 20+ cars from is giving a 10% discount if I want an M3c and allocation immediately just the wait from production to dealer, Leasing this car so no funny business on payment. I am holding off till mid next year on placing the order as I think the car market will be hurting.

Why don’t u tell us which dealer is giving 10% off. And why don’t you give links to ALL your local dealers that have 2-5 M3s in stock. Let’s see it.

Boogie2121 · 07-29-2023, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kgelfen360

Why don’t u tell us which dealer is giving 10% off. And why don’t you give links to ALL your local dealers that have 2-5 M3s in stock. Let’s see it.

10% off allocation in SoCal lol.

CMW33 · 07-29-2023, 03:03 PM

Anecdotally, in the DMV, it does seem like demand is softening and/or supply is caught up. Some months ago, when I was calling around looking for an allocation, ADM dealers had 0 people on their waitlists, suggesting there is no appetite or need to accept ADM anymore, at least around the DMV.

BimmerFix · 07-29-2023, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Boogie2121

10% off allocation in SoCal lol.

For an M3 Comp ? I call BS
M4 Vert yeah .. maybe doable
M4 Coupe highly unlikely but possible

And I haven’t seen any dealer with 3-4+ M3’s on the lot. Those that do are usually stripper base models.

Or customer sold cars that auto pop on dealer’s websites.

kgelfen360 · 07-29-2023, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Boogie2121

10% off allocation in SoCal lol.

So which dealer? Lol

Boogie2121 · 07-29-2023, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kgelfen360

So which dealer? Lol

No it’s not me. I’m laughing at the concept of this being possible.

kgelfen360 · 07-29-2023, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Boogie2121

No it’s not me. I’m laughing at the concept of this being possible.

Ok sorry I misunderstood.
Yea I am very confused about this randomly just coming and saying “oh there is dealer with 10% off”

03-13-2023, 10:45 PM	#23
Mark Kez Lieutenant Colonel 2209 Rep 1,583 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Convertible Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Syracuse NY iTrader: (0)	I must be using the wrong dealership, MSRP on my last two G83’s and not a whiff of a discount anywhere I’ve looked here in the NE except for a $500 loyalty rebate!! You all are good!!
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03-13-2023, 11:19 PM	#24
Boogie2121 Lieutenant 1247 Rep 447 Posts Drives: BMW X5M Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	I/my admin called 196 dealers across the country the last 7 days to find a 2024 M4 Xdrive Comp allocation as I wanted to order an individual color. Results -190 No we do not -6 Yes, for 1-5K over MSRP -1 Yes, MSRP Next Level Auto Brokers is the person who helped me find what dealers actually had allocations. One of them got it done for me and got my individual color accepted today. I was hoping for a 2-3k discount but that was not a reality. Maybe it was for a brief time in February or for cars on the lot. But allocations seem to have smaller #s than I expected.
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03-14-2023, 02:28 PM	#30
GixY2K Lieutenant 519 Rep 570 Posts Drives: '19 GLA45AMG(his) / '21 X3M40i Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Colorado Springs, CO iTrader: (0)	It's even harder to justify ADM when you have already scratched that itch with one that I paid MSRP and was available in Sep. '21; same day I stopped to see BMWs at the dealership. My dealership already knocked down $2.5K off of the $5K ADM on a unspoken allocation. I told them to let me know when they start talking MSRP or below. Funny thing is, by then, I probably would have realized that I don't really need to dump another $110K on a car that caused me so much stress and grief driving it in Crazy Colorado Springs (pot holes, accidents, debris, hail, etc.); I'm too OCD w/ my cars __________________ Currently: '19 GLA45AMG grey (his) & '21 X3M40i DGM (hers) w/ JB4@Map1 Previous cars: 2022 M4 xDrive in Mexico Blue with Silverstone/Black interior 2014 BE GTR FBO/e85
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07-28-2023, 08:30 PM	#33
Lauren8 Private 188 Rep 90 Posts Drives: 992 and F87 Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	I just been offer MSRP for a brand new 2023 M3. I'm in Socal. The dealer said if I pass on the car, there are two customers in line that want the car and willing to pay $5k ADM and all cash. Should I pass? __________________ 96: 318ti \|01: 325 \|02: 325w \|03: 330xi \|04: X3 \|05: X5 \|06: X5 4.4, X3, 330 \|08: 328 \|11: 135 \|12: X3, X6, M3, 650, 997 \|13: X6M, 640GC, M3 LRE, M6, M5, 135is, 328 \|14: X1, 981 \|15: M4 \|16: 981 \|17: M2, F13 \|20: M2c, 982, M2c l 22: 992, G42 \| 23: G80\| 24: G87
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07-29-2023, 12:17 PM	#37
eric9610 Private First Class 11 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 2020 Telsa Model YLR Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Newport Coast iTrader: (0)	Inventory is starting to accumulate at dealers. All my local dealers have 2-5 M3 in stock. The dealer I have bought 20+ cars from is giving a 10% discount if I want an M3c and allocation immediately just the wait from production to dealer, Leasing this car so no funny business on payment. I am holding off till mid next year on placing the order as I think the car market will be hurting. __________________ 2021 MYLR (c), 2016 MB E350 (c),2018 MB E300 (r), 2019 AMG GT63s 4D (r),2018 MB E63S (r), 2018 911T (r), 2014 X5M (r), 2013 X1 35i (r),2011 M3 (r), 2010 328i (r), 2008 M3 (r),2005 330ci (r), 2004 Lotus Elise (r), 2004 X3 (r),2002 330ci (r), 2002 Hummer (r), 2002 MB G500(r), 2000 Z8 (r), 2000 323cic (r)
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07-29-2023, 03:03 PM	#40
CMW33 Second Lieutenant 363 Rep 242 Posts Drives: 2024 G80 Comp Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NoVA iTrader: (0)	Anecdotally, in the DMV, it does seem like demand is softening and/or supply is caught up. Some months ago, when I was calling around looking for an allocation, ADM dealers had 0 people on their waitlists, suggesting there is no appetite or need to accept ADM anymore, at least around the DMV.
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