[to///m]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

in my opinion, it's not fair to compare regular springs to adjustable given the price difference.

If the customer has the budget for it, i recommend always skipping the regular springs and getting the adjustable ones. AST & H&R are excellent options and well worth the investment

Good point, I assumed the AST non adjustable spring would be similar to the AST adjustable spring but can see how there may have to be differences.

Only speaking from my personal experience between the 2 sets I have driven on.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by to///m

Good point, I assumed the AST non adjustable spring would be similar to the AST adjustable spring but can see how there may have to be differences.

Only speaking from my personal experience between the 2 sets I have driven on.

it's expected to think so, but unfortunately, that's not the case. the ride difference between the H&R regular and adjustable for example is night and day

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Soylent

Aren’t we discussing lowering springs in this thread and not HAS? I assumed that both the H&R super sports snd the AST in this thread referred to the non-adjustable versions. And if so why not the Eibachs as well?

I do love the lower look of the HAS but after dealing with all the clunking, binding, and bottoming out, HAS is a pass for me.

thats why im making sure we are comparing apples to apples.

BTW, zero noise with H&R HAS (called VTF)

[Soylent]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

thats why im making sure we are comparing apples to apples.

BTW, zero noise with H&R HAS (called VTF)

Hmm. Something to think about if they don’t have the issues that my MSS did.

[doinkdedoink]

I'm riding on AST springs, no complaints so far but I have nothing to compare it to either lol. Here's a pic for reference.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Fixed

[g80teege]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

I only use adjustable springs, the H&R are not bouncy at all but their regular springs are bouncy so you should stay away from them if thats the #1 thing you dont want

I’m now debating on possibly just going adjustable springs right away, is there a strong reason you suggest to do so? And can I ask why you prefer H&R VTF over the KW HAS kit?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by g80teege

I’m now debating on possibly just going adjustable springs right away, is there a strong reason you suggest to do so? And can I ask why you prefer H&R VTF over the KW HAS kit?

In my opinion, the H&R stance is better than KW

I went straight to adjustable springs, i recommend you do the same

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by g80teege

I’m now debating on possibly just going adjustable springs right away, is there a strong reason you suggest to do so? And can I ask why you prefer H&R VTF over the KW HAS kit?

Being that KW is the official Motorsport supplier for BMW, we prefer the KWs. You can read more about their partnership program below:

https://www.kwsuspensions.com/bmw-motorsport

[Soylent]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

In my opinion, the H&R stance is better than KW

I went straight to adjustable springs, i recommend you do the same

Since you have had both how do you compare the H&R to the MSS. And specifically the first setup MSS had, not the later redesign for the front that was atrocious. I was having clunks, bottom outs and binding on my MSS after several thousand miles which is why I was considering Eibachs for my 2025.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Soylent

Since you have had both how do you compare the H&R to the MSS. And specifically the first setup MSS had, not the later redesign for the front that was atrocious. I was having clunks, bottom outs and binding on my MSS after several thousand miles which is why I was considering Eibachs for my 2025.

hi
The original MSS I had was too high in the front. The ride quality was similar to stock. But I was not happy with the drop.

Since then, MSS has redesigned their kit so it's lower in the front, but i see no reason to switch from the H&R VTF, it offers everything im looking for in adjustable springs with 0 downsides.

[smuttana]

Went from Eibach’s to AST’s, no issues

https://youtu.be/T5fEVc5uvxU

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by smuttana

Went from Eibach’s to AST’s, no issues