[Gfit]

Originally Posted by aj_g80

what lock is good for 120 days? i thought it was 90 day WC, 60 day EC?

This morning I text my CA (been with them for 20 years) and asked about the lock. His response was 120 days. I'm in NY. Dealer in PA.

['Cane]

Originally Posted by aj_g80

what lock is good for 120 days? i thought it was 90 day WC, 60 day EC?

They changed it last year when production started hitting serous snags, around October/November. 90 days EC/120 days WC.

[Tonyfsu21]

I understand BMWFS still offers the MSD program and I wanted to see if anyone could help me with this deal in regards to what type of payment I would be looking at after maxing out the MSD's. Thanks in advance. [IMG][/IMG]

[aj_g80]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

They changed it last year when production started hitting serous snags, around October/November. 90 days EC/120 days WC.

interesting.

['Cane]

Originally Posted by Tonyfsu21

I understand BMWFS still offers the MSD program and I wanted to see if anyone could help me with this deal in regards to what type of payment I would be looking at after maxing out the MSD's. Thanks in advance. [IMG][/IMG]

Man, that's a tough lease. If you put the same amount (~$14k) on BMW Select and your payment will be close to $1000/month, or put $0 down on Select and it'd still be around $1300/month. Either way, $1500/month for an M3 is a lot.

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by Tonyfsu21

I understand BMWFS still offers the MSD program and I wanted to see if anyone could help me with this deal in regards to what type of payment I would be looking at after maxing out the MSD's. Thanks in advance. [IMG][/IMG]

BMW recently reduced the impact MSDs have on the money factor. In this case, if you put the max MSDs down (Should be $10,500), you'd see a reduction in your monthly payment by about $40 or so. So instead of $1,525 you'd be down to ~$1,485.

Think of it this way.. putting $10,500 in MSDs reduces your money factor from 0.002 to 0.00172 - not a big difference. So essentially you're dropping $10,500 to get an ROI of $1,440 over the life of the lease ($40*36).

Doesn't help that there's no lease support from BMW in the form of lease cash. While the residuals are great, the lack of any incentives makes leasing a tough sell in this market.

[FSociety]

Ordered my 23 G80 from a good guy in NJ

My other friend ordered his early August and it's already at Port

A looooot of dealers have 0 allocations thats why you're waiting 8-12 months

[gohawks23]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

BMW recently reduced the impact MSDs have on the money factor. In this case, if you put the max MSDs down (Should be $10,500), you'd see a reduction in your monthly payment by about $40 or so. So instead of $1,525 you'd be down to ~$1,485.

Think of it this way.. putting $10,500 in MSDs reduces your money factor from 0.002 to 0.00172 - not a big difference. So essentially you're dropping $10,500 to get an ROI of $1,440 over the life of the lease ($40*36).

Doesn't help that there's no lease support from BMW in the form of lease cash. While the residuals are great, the lack of any incentives makes leasing a tough sell in this market.

Still like a 4.5% return...not bad compared to money market or CDs.

[Tonyfsu21]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

BMW recently reduced the impact MSDs have on the money factor. In this case, if you put the max MSDs down (Should be $10,500), you'd see a reduction in your monthly payment by about $40 or so. So instead of $1,525 you'd be down to ~$1,485.

Think of it this way.. putting $10,500 in MSDs reduces your money factor from 0.002 to 0.00172 - not a big difference. So essentially you're dropping $10,500 to get an ROI of $1,440 over the life of the lease ($40*36).

Doesn't help that there's no lease support from BMW in the form of lease cash. While the residuals are great, the lack of any incentives makes leasing a tough sell in this market.

Originally Posted by wtwo3

BMW recently reduced the impact MSDs have on the money factor. In this case, if you put the max MSDs down (Should be $10,500), you'd see a reduction in your monthly payment by about $40 or so. So instead of $1,525 you'd be down to ~$1,485.

Think of it this way.. putting $10,500 in MSDs reduces your money factor from 0.002 to 0.00172 - not a big difference. So essentially you're dropping $10,500 to get an ROI of $1,440 over the life of the lease ($40*36).

Doesn't help that there's no lease support from BMW in the form of lease cash. While the residuals are great, the lack of any incentives makes leasing a tough sell in this market.

After 15 M cars over the years, this is the kinda rubbish I'm getting from my local dealer:

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by Tonyfsu21

After 15 M cars over the years, this is the kinda rubbish I'm getting from my local dealer:

Get with one of the brokers on the forum...they will find you a build.

[Delmoney335]

Originally Posted by Tonyfsu21

After 15 M cars over the years, this is the kinda rubbish I'm getting from my local dealer:

5,000 lol

I’ve bought as few cars at BMW pines. Same dealership as ftl. Not surprised really.

[Tonyfsu21]

Originally Posted by Delmoney335

5,000 lol

I've bought as few cars at BMW pines. Same dealership as ftl. Not surprised really.

Agree, they really are a special dealership…

[Delmoney335]

Originally Posted by Tonyfsu21

Agree, they really are a special dealership…

My last 2 M's have been bought out of state due to their unwillingness to even consider making any deals and that was prior to the current situations we are in. So I can only imagine their stance now , 5K deposits for a spot in a 1-2 year line and marked up MF is a given.

[Tonyfsu21]

Originally Posted by Delmoney335

My last 2 M's have been bought out of state due to their unwillingness to even consider making any deals and that was prior to the current situations we are in. So I can only imagine their stance now , 5K deposits for a spot in a 1-2 year line and marked up MF is a given.

We have leased the last 2 from BMW Cantonsville via David Aviles because of the local dealership nonsense here in SoFL. David quoted me a 3 month lead time on the M3 I spec'ed.

['Cane]

Originally Posted by Tonyfsu21

We have leased the last 2 from BMW Cantonsville via David Aviles because of the local dealership nonsense here in SoFL. David quoted me a 3 month lead time on the M3 I spec'ed.

David is pretty no-nonsense. I ordered my 2016 M4 from him (he was in Cali at the time though) and my G82 with him, but through no fault of his, I never took delivery of it. I would order with him again.

[Mp3Supply]

Reached out to a local dealer and he told me it'd be a 1 year wait and I'd be behind 47 people in their bank, but the kicker was..

He told me the deposit was non-refundable?!

Is that norm, I've not heard anyone really mentioning that here. Just curious.

i get they want a commitment, and if they told me they could secure an allocation in a timely manner I'd maybe do it.. but I don't plan to move forward simply based on that. I'll put in the work and call other dealers and use other lists here.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by Mp3Supply

He told me the deposit was non-refundable?!

Is that norm, I've not heard anyone really mentioning that here. Just curious.

I don't want to move forward simply based on that.

That's not the norm and i wouldnt move forward with that dealer. My dealer didnt ask for a deposit throughout the whole process.

[Mp3Supply]

Originally Posted by vj123

That's not the norm and i wouldnt move forward with that dealer. My dealer didnt ask for a deposit throughout the whole process.

TY.

I emailed him back with a few exclamation marks and question marks and asked him if he just fat fingered on his keyboard. Was pretty taken back when he told me originally.

[TonyTone]

Originally Posted by Tonyfsu21

After 15 M cars over the years, this is the kinda rubbish I'm getting from my local dealer:

They told me $2500 back in February ish.

[DocWeatherington]

Jason

Do we have Oct numbers?

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Jason

Do we have Oct numbers?

Why haven't the lease numbers been updated since August?

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by WWM3

Why haven't the lease numbers been updated since August?

I wonder if they were told not to by bmw NA...

It's the same across all the forums here