[Lupeskew]

Just buy what you like and don't let stereotypes dissuade you. Speaking of first cars. I still have my first car I got when I was 16. 1971 Ford F100 pick up that was 16 years old. I still love that thing!

[Rux]

Is 100k for a car really the “omg fuck that kid and his parents “ line?

It’s the BMW stereotype curse. If the same kid you see in a new M4 was instead in a loaded F150, most of the “get off my lawn people” wouldn’t say shit.

I hear it all the time. “must be nice”. Does not matter if i paid 200k or 200 bucks. IF BMW THEN “must be nice. My kid got a 2023 loaded Civic when she turned 16. Those run about 35 grand now.


Personally I feel it’s idiotic in 99.9 percent of cases and I only care to the point that it directly affects me and mine. That really comes down to insurance rates and avoiding smooth brained kids in a car they can’t handle.

[FC4]

Originally Posted by Rux

My kid got a 2023 loaded Civic when she turned 16. Those run about 35 grand now.

I'm sure there are Civic enthusiasts who'd react just as strongly to this as some people here about an M3.

Also won't be surprised if there "What's your daily?" threads over on the Civic forums.

[DisonKlaud]

i don’t think so

[M3LISSA]

I raised my boys in an E90 m3 so I’m gonna say yes…. I had that car for ten years…

[g80_lucy_]

Bought my G80 at 35, now have a 7 month old but I’ll never grow up! Men are just boys with more $ and more fun toys. Life is too short to drive boring cars, so buy what makes you smile every time you drive it!

[LuckyBrand]

I've had my G80 almost 4 years (In May). I live in a smaller town/area and have only seen 4 or 5 at most other G80/82s than mine. It's actually really nice because I don't feel like everyone has one like in some areas. I still feel pretty unique. My local BMW dealer loves it when I stop by and is always trying to get it on trade cause they aren't very big and hardly get allocations on M cars.

But, this would not impact my purchase if I lived in an area where everyone had one or a bunch of kids owned one. Heck, we have Mustangs everywhere around me and lots of younger folks drive them. Given the right Stang, I'd absolutely own one. If you like something you should pursue it.

I get made fun of on a daily basis by friends and co-workers for having 3 BMW's. Even though some of them drive 70 thousand dollar trucks I'm the snooty stuck up guy lol. It's all for fun but I could care less. I've always been the different guy that just drives what he likes and loves. Around me your supposed to drive a truck or a jeep lol.

Just buy what ticks your passion and enjoy it man.

[BEAR-AvHistory-2]

Send the kid to high performance driving school before you buy the car or let him/her drive yours.

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by Rux

Is 100k for a car really the “omg fuck that kid and his parents “ line? …

To be fair it takes much, much less for me to say “fuck that kid” … my son wouldn’t eat his apple last night and that was enough

[MarineRaider]

I remember coming home from some deployment and deciding to treat myself to my dream car, a Estroril Blue E46 M3. I was driving up from Camp Pendelton to Newport to see family and was on Jamboree directly behind my cars cousin, another E46 M3 in LeMans Blue. Noticed a " University High School " sticker on the back glass. Eventually we pulled next to each other and the driver, a very young kid waved at me and blasted it at the light.
I just laughed.

[mirob]

Originally Posted by Slowphiveo

It's relatively easy when you live at home in mom and dad's basement and sign a low mileage lease with no money down and are leveraged out the Ying Yang. What's a 7500 mile lease, no money down, payment run on a G8X? Maybe $1500ish a month? That's not a lot of money if you have no rent, mom and dad cover utilities and your mobile phone, etc.

Had I gone to my parents with that proposition I would have gotten slapped silly.

[JD15]

Originally Posted by mirob

Had I gone to my parents with that proposition I would have gotten slapped silly.

Exactly. Also, in the period after school when I lived at home, I was paying rent to my parents. No freebies in our house.

[G80indy]

Varieties of ways of raising kids.

Kids don’t process danger/ potential for danger like adult brains.

We decided to have ours “own it” by them paying their insurance. If they get a citation they own the insurance increase.
I cover all maintenance.

They drive a USED CAR, so if/when they hit something it’s not an insurance mess, (but of course insured for max liability).

Young drivers need guidance for life, and need goals not handouts.
I worked for my stuff. As a teenager mowing lawns etc for audio gear.
I loved my first car that I bought myself, new. And wanting/ attaining/ appreciating it after my first real job gave me motivation. Played out for my work ethic ever since.

But as I said - parenting varies

[akkando]

Originally Posted by FrozenGT

Well, you can find a used M vehicle but it needs to be certified by Bmw and you need to check all of the maintenance on the vehicle and I would look for one with under 10,000 miles. Make sure that it had one owner.

You got a really cherry pick when it comes to these types of things not so much Porsche vehicles as Porsche is so strict they will not CPO a vehicle that even has one modification to it.

That's not true. They cpo cars with modded exhaust all the time. Springs and cage too if they're genuine Porsche parts. They probably won't CPO without cats though.

[midlifecrisis]

My kids are all grown with kids of their own, but my recommendation for friends and what I gave my kids was “old, low, and slow”. The odds of a young driver being involved in an incident are pretty high, and I didn’t want to deal with huge insurance increases. The cars were old so I didn’t need to carry collision coverage, low so the rollover potential was minimal (folks buying Jeeps and other high COG vehicles for their kids don’t know how risky that is), and slow so they weren’t likely to lose control on acceleration. (Think Mustang - or M4 these days - leaving a C&C and ending up on YouTube.) Our kids fleet included a few hand-me-downs: ‘94 Grand Marquis, ‘91 Taurus, ‘01 Camry 5-speed, my ‘00 328i, and a ‘91 325iX. The BMWs were the second car for two of the kids, once they’d driven for a couple of years. My son rear-ended a truck in my 328, so at the time I wished he still had the Taurus!

As for me, I bought my first M car at 50 - a 2008 M3. Now, at 67, my G80 is 3 years old. I ‘ve started tracking it because the need for speed hasn’t diminished as my age has increased!

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by Rux

Is 100k for a car really the “omg fuck that kid and his parents “ line?

It’s the BMW stereotype curse. If the same kid you see in a new M4 was instead in a loaded F150, most of the “get off my lawn people” wouldn’t say shit.

I hear it all the time. “must be nice”. Does not matter if i paid 200k or 200 bucks. IF BMW THEN “must be nice. My kid got a 2023 loaded Civic when she turned 16. Those run about 35 grand now.


Personally I feel it’s idiotic in 99.9 percent of cases and I only care to the point that it directly affects me and mine. That really comes down to insurance rates and avoiding smooth brained kids in a car they can’t handle.

Heh.

My kid drives our old Porsche Cayenne diesel. It's got 130k miles, is 12 and a half years old, and is worth, maybe, $15k-$18k? But to his friends it's a "Porsh" so of course he's loaded. Meanwhile, half his friends here in Houston are driving new or 2-3 year old loaded 1/2 ton trucks that are worth $60k or $70k. But, of course, they are just pickups.

Truth be told, I didn't want him driving the car for this reason. That and it's far too nice of a car for him to drive as his first car. But a year ago (and still today too) I went looking at the "5-8 year old Camry / Accord / Outback / etc." for him and found that the same $15k I could get for our Cayenne bought me a 3-5 year old one of those with MORE mileage, multiple owners, and almost always, an accident on the carfax.

Crazy. And definitely not worth it just for the lesson.

[hypzM3]

I'd say there is a higher correlation to an "older" (35+) M3/M4 driver being an enthusiast than not when driving this car. I feel like most the time the drivers I see are 20s/30s/40s, more on the youthful side. Most older folks who buy a performance car and aren't enthusiasts dont opt for the M3/M4, in the BMW sphere they are buying X6M, X5M, etc or whatever the new AMG E or S class is they have put out...that or a 911 cab, but these folks arent enthusiasts.

punch line - younger drivers and the older the driver of the m3/m4 the more tilted they are to being an enthusiast

[maguir2]

I love how everything says “rich families/trust funds kids” lol. Have you thought about they could be well educated young adults with a good job and no kids? Y’all are showing your age with that mentality lol

[JD15]

Originally Posted by maguir2

I love how everything says “rich families/trust funds kids” lol. Have you thought about they could be well educated young adults with a good job and no kids? Y’all are showing your age with that mentality lol

I'm sure that applies to the high school kids with G80s. Even the kids out of college with good jobs who afford them because they're living at home for free aren't really doing it themselves either.

[redtrack]

71 yrs old and enjoying my M3CX, after selling my c8! don't care what it's the age of others drivers! btw continue instructing young guys at PCA!

[Skyscraper]

M3/4 is not a kids car; Mustangs are.

You live in a very affluent area. Don’t let the success and wasteful spending of others make you feel negitively about your choice.
You don’t want to spend more than you can afford to try and impress people.
They don’t care.

And everyone knows when it’s the parents money. Nobody is impressed when a kid drives a nice car. I let my son drive my 79 Turbo to a C&C. I was behind him driving through the parking lot and several people said… “Daddy’s car” as he drove past. 🤣


Him and his friends taking it to a HS car show.

[e30ak]

I’m 63 with brand ‘25 G80x. “It lives in another world” - C&D.