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Bad news... I found out today that I got selected in a jury pool for a trial, so I had to cancel my appointment for tomorrow's install. Hopefully, either I don't get selected as a juror/alternate, or it's a short trial and I can get them installed next Thursday at least in time for Buttonwillow.
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Tell them you can't make it because people on the internet are eagerly awaiting your feedback on an important car modification.
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Priorities, right?
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We just completed installation of the SPL pieces yesterday, M4 is at alignment today. m4ml should probably be following up shortly or after his track weekend.
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My point of comparison is between: Chuckwalla - stock rear - -2.25° front camber, 3/16" toe-in/-2.0° rear camber 3/16" toe-in Buttonwillow - SPL rear upper (camber) arms w/lockout, toe links w/lockout, and traction links - -3.2° front camber, 0" toe/-2.5° rear camber 1/8" toe-in The SPL rear upper arms allowed for the additional camber in the rear. I already had the camber plates in the front. The car felt better on exit after the upgrade. I felt more confident rolling into the throttle quicker and sitting the rear end down than I did at Chuckwalla. It also felt better in the longer sweepers, with more sense of what the rear was doing. Comparing something like turn 4/5 at Chuckwalla to Riverside at Buttonwillow (as best of a matchup for a long constant(ish) turn as I could find between the two); after a few laps at Buttonwillow I had more confidence in Riverside than I did in turn 4/5 at Chuckwalla all day, and I was able to throttle steer a bit better through it once I had that confidence. I also want to say that I could feel the car taking a set better in transitions, which also gave me more confidence. Was it a HUGE improvement? No. Was it a noticeable improvement? Yes, but only slightly. I can't think of a way to describe the rear before. I want to use the word "soft", but that's a bit hyperbolic. It wasn't soft by any stretch, it just wasn't solid and it wasn't necessarily consistent. Now the rear is solid and consistent. With all of that said, I'm not much of an NVH kind of guy. I know what I did, and I know the consequences, so I really don't care. If you are an NVH kind of guy, I don't recommend the full upgrade. NVH has increased more so than any other upgrade that I've done.
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Yes, it is definitely overkill if you're not tracking. And even then it's probably overkill unless you're going to track your car a lot.
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There is more harshness in feeling the road through the rear end, but I wouldn’t say unbearable. I’d really prefer to swap the rubber bushings on the rear toe arms (of which there is 1 spherical and 1 rubber) for a Delrin bushing. Still working on a supplier, but the SPL’s are certainly better for more feel than the OEM. Since mine is a daily, I would not swap ANYTHING else back there as any more harshness would be too much for my taste.
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Personally, I'd have a hard time convincing myself to only do the toe links though, without also at least doing the trailing arms. And TBH, if you're not tracking it, I'd be hard pressed to recommend either, unless you're like me and you don't care about NVH. Or if you're trying to do an aggressive alignment that exceeds the range of the rear adjustment, then (as recommended to my by Tom at EAS) start with just the upper control (camber) arms. Note: I didn't listen to Tom, I did all three (but only because I knew I was going to be tracking it quite often and, as I've said many times, I don't care about NVH)
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I think I’m going to hold off on them for now since I am doing a few other modifications that will affect NVH and it might be hard to pinpoint what’s what. I’m going in for lowering springs, front monoballs, and CSL engine/trans mounts. I’m sure the monoballs and mounts will increase NVH some. I have a pretty high tolerance for NVH I just don’t want it to be ridiculous 🤣 |
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?? I want to know too.
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