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      05-02-2023, 12:05 AM   #89
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Fool proof is me.
It has to withstand my idiocy in hitting it or using it wrong.

I don’t know if I’d survive these.
It's hard to go wrong with them. They literally slide under the plastic jack points. I have been using them for over a year now and have had no issues.
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Wow, idk… I would not bet my life on those.

Is that really foolproof?
They look so small.
Jack stands are foolproof unless you cheap out. I recommend getting ESCO 3 ton jack stands, not the cheapest but I always hear good things about them.
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Jackpoint jackstands are another great easy alternative where you don’t have to worry about the placement. I have the low profile option and I use a standard bmw universal puck.
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Jack stands are foolproof unless you cheap out. I recommend getting ESCO 3 ton jack stands, not the cheapest but I always hear good things about them.
I ordered the ESCO 3 ton jack stand. Do I still need the puck for them?
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I ordered the ESCO 3 ton jack stand. Do I still need the puck for them?
I don’t use a puck since the top of the ESCO stands are flat rubber, but I still have a puck that I use when I’m lifting the car with a jack.
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Jack stands are foolproof unless you cheap out. I recommend getting ESCO 3 ton jack stands, not the cheapest but I always hear good things about them.
i love my esco jack stands. i've always been bothered by the plastic jack pad point on BMWs. i crushed one many moons ago on one my cars. not good. it seems like you could remove those rectangular bits and just use whatever metal pad is there as the jack point? alternatively, i wish they'd make a solid block to snap in there that you could lift from and rest onto the flat esco pad. easy enough solution, i'd think.


we're all overlooking the best jack system .. the built-in pneumatic system like the M2 racecars from BMW lol. that's my dream solution.
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i love my esco jack stands. i've always been bothered by the plastic jack pad point on BMWs. i crushed one many moons ago on one my cars. not good. it seems like you could remove those rectangular bits and just use whatever metal pad is there as the jack point? alternatively, i wish they'd make a solid block to snap in there that you could lift from and rest onto the flat esco pad. easy enough solution, i'd think.
Yeah I don’t like the plastic jack points either, but it’s alright when you use those adapter pucks. That being said I’ve been using the ESCO’s without adapters on the plastic jack points and they seem to be holding up fine.
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Save yourself the headache. Get a QuickJack.
Own one. Love it for off wheel work. Decent price point compared to dedicated (non-mobile) lifts starting around $6-7k and up.
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I used the knock off Esco 3 tonners from Harbor Freight that I bought. Extremely solid and well built. I used the jack pad adapters on all 4 points with the rubber pad still on the jack. It just felt better with the jack pad vs just the rubber pad to me.
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Any good recommendations for a low profile Jack?
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Any good recommendations for a low profile Jack?
I have this jack. First saw it on Kies Motor Sports. This is low profile and has long reach. It's worth it.

Arcan 2 Ton Extra Long Reach Low Profile Steel Floor Jack A20016 / XL2T, Black https://a.co/d/1cL7UCm
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      10-03-2023, 11:52 PM   #100
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Any good recommendations for a low profile Jack?
I use this from Harbor Freight. Very well built and heavy. Usually comes on sale for like $175 if u wanna wait. Make sure its the low profile AND long reach

https://www.harborfreight.com/automo...ack-64781.html
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I use this from Harbor Freight. Very well built and heavy. Usually comes on sale for like $175 if u wanna wait. Make sure its the low profile AND long reach

https://www.harborfreight.com/automo...ack-64781.html
You absolutely do not need long reach. Low Profile is important though.

https://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-...ack-64780.html

You only get another 4" with long reach. It's not worth the extra price.
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You absolutely do not need long reach. Low Profile is important though.

https://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-...ack-64780.html

You only get another 4" with long reach. It's not worth the extra price.
Yea I got 3 ton Pittsburgh with 19 inch lift from Harbor Freight (I also have an suv I want to use it on). Low profile super important especially if your car is lowered. They are good jacks. I went with steel vs aluminum just because it’s cheaper but it is heavy like 80 pounds heavy. Just sits in garage though so I don’t really care but it’s not like something you will want to take places with you if that’s what u looking for.


https://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-...ray-70482.html
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You absolutely do not need long reach. Low Profile is important though.
You can be creative - my jack is not particularly low profile or long reach, but with stock suspension height works fine in the rear to get to the diff. For the front, I cut a couple lengths of 2x8 with a 45-degree bevel on one end and backed with non-slip drawer liner stapled on. I just drive up on that and it gives enough clearance.
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You can be creative - my jack is not particularly low profile, but with stock suspension height works fine in the rear to get to the diff. For the front, I cut a couple lengths of 2x8 with a 45-degree bevel on one end and backed with non-slip drawer liner stapled on. I just drive up on that and it gives enough clearance.
I say that generally because it's a bit easier to get creative with getting the car higher, but not getting the jack/floor/ground lower :P
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You absolutely do not need long reach. Low Profile is important though.

https://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-...ack-64780.html

You only get another 4" with long reach. It's not worth the extra price.
R u able to reach the front middle jack point with the regular one? If not, then you do need the long reach. Saves u time with jacking each wheel separately. Jacking the point in the front middle raises the both fronts and using the rear diff raises both rear wheels
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R u able to reach the front middle jack point with the regular one? If not, then you do need the long reach. Saves u time with jacking each wheel separately. One in the front middle and read diff raises both front and rear wheels
Not having Long reach would not preclude you from reaching that jack point.

If it doesn't reach with the handle all the way up, you can slide it over with the handle a bit tilted down, loosened. Rapid pump would make it not an issue pumping the jack up with it not at full range.

That being said, I'm nearly 100% positive you can reach the front middle jack point with a regular one. I'll test it quickly later though, but the one I used in the past I'm nearly certain was not a long reach jack either.
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Not having Long reach would not preclude you from reaching that jack point.

If it doesn't reach with the handle all the way up, you can slide it over with the handle a bit tilted down, loosened. Rapid pump would make it not an issue pumping the jack up with it not at full range.

That being said, I'm nearly 100% positive you can reach the front middle jack point with a regular one. I'll test it quickly later though, but the one I used in the past I'm nearly certain was not a long reach jack either.
The price difference between the 2 is like $25. Instead of using all that work around, its just easier to get the long reach. The video OP posted shows the long reach being used at 0.28 seconds into the video. Its a one time purchase and with the price difference, its totally worth it if u r looking for a new jack or plan on lowering the car in which case those work around to take the handle tilted might not work. Also if u plan to install a front lip, it might push ur reach back a bit depending on the style of the lip

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The price difference between the 2 is like $25. Instead of using all that work around, its just easier to get the long reach. The video OP posted shows the long reach being used at 0.28 seconds into the video. Its a one time purchase and with the price difference, its totally worth it if u r looking for a new jack or plan on lowering the car in which case those work around to take the handle tilted might not work. Also if u plan to install a front lip, it might push ur reach back a bit depending on the style of the lip
It's $50, also heavier because it's larger. I don't agree that it's worth it, but absolutely worth is subjective. If you don't mind spending the extra money it's certainly not worse.
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It's $50, also heavier because it's larger. I don't agree that it's worth it, but absolutely worth is subjective. If you don't mind spending the extra money it's certainly not worse.
Usually with the sale coupons, its like $179 vs $159 for the short one. The weight is irrelevant as its a floor jack and its gonna be laying on the floor in a corner. Its 80 lbs vs 100 lbs but moving it on wheels isnt that hard. I agree that worth is subjective but when you state that "You absolutely do NOT need a long reach jack", you are contradicting this statement. Let the person decide what they want. If your short jack doesnt reach the front jack point but you are content with raising each wheel using the side ones, that suits you. I dont feel like doing each wheel separately and the time saving benefits are totally worth it esp if the price isnt too high. So I would recommend it to anyone looking for a new jack. If they find it worth it, then thats fine. If they dont find it worth it, thats fine too....
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I actually have both of them and I prefer the long reach for getting to the center front and rear jacking points. It also has a higher max lift and it has a hand/foot pump which is nice when initially aligning it with the jack point. I think it’s easily worth the small premium especially since it is frequently on sale.
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