[Eurohorses]

Hey Guys…

I’m pretty desperate here and am in need of an assist. I’m in the process of getting a set of wheels built for my G80 M but the company only has the specs for the steel brake setup. My car has the CCB option and in order for them to build the most aggressive wheel setup, they need specific measurements. Anyone have this info on hand? Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks

[nunzo]

Driverightdata has the CCB template - your wheel manufacturer can purchase it from them.

[Eurohorses]

Originally Posted by nunzo

Driverightdata has the CCB template - your wheel manufacturer can purchase it from them.

Thanks very much! I’ll check it out now.

[Eurohorses]

So there is a $210 fee to provide this info. Is that normal or am I supposed to be able to get this for free?

Thanks!

[Eurohorses]

Originally Posted by Eurohorses

Thanks very much! I’ll check it out now.

Here is the email I received from them. I don’t mind paying. But if I don’t have to, all the better.

[nunzo]

Originally Posted by Eurohorses

So there is a $210 fee to provide this info. Is that normal or am I supposed to be able to get this for free?

Thanks!

None of this data is free unfortunately. It’s way cheaper to use them over buying the TUV templates for thousands.

[Technic]

Any decent wheel manufacturer should have the brake data of the vehicles that they make wheels for. Or should pay for it.

[M4Miggs]

So are the rear calipers bigger on the CCB than the steel calipers ? I know the rotors are bigger but the calipers look to be the same size.

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by Eurohorses

they need specific measurements. Anyone have this info on hand?

The data is on your car, get a caliper/tape measure, take the wheel off and go to work.

[nunzo]

Originally Posted by Technic

Any decent wheel manufacturer should have the brake data of the vehicles that they make wheels for. Or should pay for it.

to be fair, Driveright just sent around an email notifying companies that they have CCBs available.

I'm in the industry as are a couple others here. Brake data is one of the most difficult items to come across. Your options are pretty much:

- buy from a third party like Driveright (who may not have what you need)
- buy in bulk from TUV, which is absurdly expensive and doesn't always carry US market car data
- the company physically measures cars with calipers/tapes or 3D scanners
- customer measures and completes a template
- hope that whoever is actually engineering and machining the wheels has the data.

I never consider any data I'm sending to Asia as private. I've had my own cast wheels I've designed with a unique feature show up at distributors with a competitor's centercap installed because somewhere along the line someone shared data with someone they weren't supposed to.

The best data out there is with Tire Rack, as they use wheel manufacturer drawings to compare against physically measured data. But, they don't share that information.

[Technic]

Understood.

However, a wheel manufacturer can provide the customer a wheel template with their proposed specs (concavity, et, spoke clearance) for the customer to place the template in the car rotors/calipers face and confirm clearance.

Again, any decent wheel manufacturer can work with the customer without being this the most difficult item to come across, or expensive on its own.

Originally Posted by nunzo

to be fair, Driveright just sent around an email notifying companies that they have CCBs available.

I'm in the industry as are a couple others here. Brake data is one of the most difficult items to come across. Your options are pretty much:

- buy from a third party like Driveright (who may not have what you need)
- buy in bulk from TUV, which is absurdly expensive and doesn't always carry US market car data
- the company physically measures cars with calipers/tapes or 3D scanners
- customer measures and completes a template
- hope that whoever is actually engineering and machining the wheels has the data.

I never consider any data I'm sending to Asia as private. I've had my own cast wheels I've designed with a unique feature show up at distributors with a competitor's centercap installed because somewhere along the line someone shared data with someone they weren't supposed to.

The best data out there is with Tire Rack, as they use wheel manufacturer drawings to compare against physically measured data. But, they don't share that information.

[nunzo]

Originally Posted by Technic

Understood.

However, a wheel manufacturer can provide the customer a wheel template with their proposed specs (concavity, et, spoke clearance) for the customer to place the template in the car rotors/calipers face and confirm clearance.

Again, any decent wheel manufacturer can work with the customer without being this the most difficult item to come across, or expensive on its own.

We give out a much more detailed template than the OP got for customers to complete for oddball fitments. I do like to buy templates when I have the opportunity or need to.

I don’t think it’s a stretch to say the majority of custom forged wheel companies operating in North America aren’t making their own wheels and don’t have engineering in house to handle the work.

[John4C]

What company is this? They should be publicly shamed because this is cringeworthy.

Find a better wheel company.

[Schulminator]

Forgeline must have all this info, as they built my wheels perfectly. Nice lip with concave faces and clear the caliper with a few mm to spare.

[Eurohorses]

Originally Posted by Schulminator

Forgeline must have all this info, as they built my wheels perfectly. Nice lip with concave faces and clear the caliper with a few mm to spare.

Any way you can request info for me?

[Gatti-man]

I’m about to pay to get this info as well for my m4. I’m going to see if soulspeed can do it for me a local suspension shop

[Eurohorses]

Originally Posted by Gatti-man

I’m about to pay to get this info as well for my m4. I’m going to see if soulspeed can do it for me a local suspension shop

Nice. Let me know how it shakes out.

[Track/S]

CCB and Steel rotors use same calipers.

[Eurohorses]

Originally Posted by Track/S

CCB and Steel rotors use same calipers.

Confirmed or you think so?

[nunzo]

If you can’t get the template, ill order it but let me make you a set of wheels then 😉

[Track/S]

Originally Posted by Eurohorses

Confirmed or you think so?

Here the only difference:

Steel brake disc 380mm
Ccb brake disc 400mm



Steel brake caliper:




CCB brake caliper:




At the support points they are 10mm higher, therefore you must tell the manufacturer that point D of the drawing must be added 10mm and that is all.