[BardG]

Originally Posted by barryc365

I think the main issues have been covered but I will add if you lower the car excessively you will wear out the shocks quicker.

I prefer the HAS kits, not for the adjustability but the additional rear spring makes a difference. I find the rear of the car rides perfectly but there is no doubt the front is a little more harsh

I have the MSS on full low on the front, which probably isn't low enough visually if you ask me, but it does ride very well and I haven't had any issues with speed bumps.

I think the lower stance with additional spacers makes a massive difference to the look of the car.

I would say go ahead on balance, it seems like you're aware of the pit falls and not going to be lowering super aggressively which is the way to go for a daily driver

Excellent, thank you. (I love the stance of your car!)

[M3AWD]

Everyone covered everything above but I'll just add that the front of the G80 responds very well to lowering from an aesthetics standpoint, in my opinion. Makes it look more sleek and not too bulky if you know what I mean.

Mine is dropped on KW HAS. If I had to guess I'd say I dropped it 1 inch all around. I did not take measurements, but it's pretty much setup at the lowest recommended front setting and the highest rear setting.

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[BardG]

Originally Posted by M3AWD

Everyone covered everything above but I'll just add that the front of the G80 responds very well to lowering from an aesthetics standpoint, in my opinion. Makes it look more sleek and not to bulky if you know what I mean.

Mine is dropped on KW HAS. If I had to guess I'd say I dropped it 1 inch all around. I did not take measurements, but it's prettyich setup at the lowest recommended front setting and the highest rear setting.

[img]https://i.ibb.co/KWkY3Qj/20211226-121328.jpg[/img]

Excellent, thank you!

[Vic55]

I think all the good members here actually gave you reasons to lower vs not lowering (as you had asked) LOL.... that says alot. Plus they are all owners of the car with real pictures too.

[mattburks]

Originally Posted by Vic55

I have been posting pics of both my cars (G80s) since May when they were dropped (Blue May AR Sept). I do have great roads though and have always lowered my cars (over 30 plus). The G8X out of all them is absolutely one of the best responding cars to spring adjustments coupled with a brilliant damper setup. Obviously when Ive lowered cars with magnetorheological dampers where things are sublime but the G8X will not let you down.

I go for a more aggressive drop but getting any type of HAS set up will allow for fine tuning.

Only the Vettels on the board will claim that lowering the car will cause incredible loss in performance LOL. You will be just fine in the real world and gain a ton of form vs the OEM 4x4 look.

MSS HAS Kit (used the same one for both cars)
H&R 15mm spacers square

Vic55 RW carbon sure likes to show me your car a lot on the social media

[8262S]

Originally Posted by ROBERT1183

Running the KW has kit on mine. Perfect drop for me while still retaining a near factory feel.

That's Dravit Grey, correct?

It looks awesome.

[ROBERT1183]

Originally Posted by 8262S

That's Dravit Grey, correct?

It looks awesome.

Yes sir. Thank you🙌🏻

[KnightedBMW]

One risk of not lowering your car is your G8X may be confused with a 4x4.

[BardG]

Originally Posted by KnightedBMW

One risk of not lowering your car is your G8X may be confused with a 4x4.

Ha!

[Topcarbon]

I live in a place where the speed bumps are called muertos(death) so i should not lower my car, even though its tempting

[BardG]

Originally Posted by Topcarbon

I live in a place where the speed bumps are called muertos(death) so i should not lower my car, even though its tempting

Oh I hear you! I hate the gap from the top of the tire to the wheel well, I love the stance when the car is lower. But, our roads suck, lots of freeze/thaw so potholes and quite uneven surfaces.

The main reason I asked the question was more related to wondering if lowering compromises the intent of the suspension system. That said, you're right, speed bumps, pot holes, breaks in pavement would be a problem if the car is to low.

[ROBERT1183]

lol haha

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by BardG

Oh I hear you! I hate the gap from the top of the tire to the wheel well, I love the stance when the car is lower. But, our roads suck, lots of freeze/thaw so potholes and quite uneven surfaces.

The main reason I asked the question was more related to wondering if lowering compromises the intent of the suspension system. That said, you're right, speed bumps, pot holes, breaks in pavement would be a problem if the car is to low.

If you are solely worried about the suspension being compromised, there is risk in regards to reduced compression and rebound from a durability standpoint if one is lowered for quite a few miles (alot).

If you are worried about ride quality- I have not felt or seen any degradation in my adjustments. BMW got the damper setup down here; now my opine is just that but its facts owning the car and not driving it for a week or more as I have other rides, then getting in and driving the same roads and completely forgetting it is dropped.

Now the Verstappen's of the world will chime in as Ive said but in reality you will be just fine. The only reason I can see for not lowering is if you you live in pot hole hell and speed bump purgatory.

[BardG]

Originally Posted by Vic55

If you are solely worried about the suspension being compromised, there is risk in regards to reduced compression and rebound from a durability standpoint if one is lowered for quite a few miles (alot).

If you are worried about ride quality- I have not felt or seen any degradation in my adjustments. BMW got the damper setup down here; now my opine is just that but its facts owning the car and not driving it for a week or more as I have other rides, then getting in and driving the same roads and completely forgetting it is dropped.

Now the Verstappen's of the world will chime in as Ive said but in reality you will be just fine. The only reason I can see for not lowering is if you you live in pot hole hell and speed bump purgatory.

This is great information, I don't rack up a lot of Km's (I'm in Canada) so I should be ok on that front.

We do have crappy roads, speed bumps not really an issue.

I'll do a little more thinking.

[Fugazii]

Originally Posted by BardG

Do spacers change the optics of the wheel/tire in the wheel well opening? I'm thinking if the wheel/tire is pushed out, it might give the appearance of filling the opening, if you see what I mean…..

Yes I ordered a set and for me it's a must.

[cubanbimmer3]

How about just throwing spacers on without lowering? I assume this is gonna enhance a "4x4 look?"

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by cubanbimmer3

How about just throwing spacers on without lowering? I assume this is gonna enhance a "4x4 look?"

Here is what my car looks like with spacers only. It’s not lowered yet. 15 mm in the front and 12 mm in the back. I plan on lowering my car I just have not made up my mind what kit to use yet. Plus I’m in the middle of spending a bloody fortune on other mods right now.

[BMWRacer523]

Originally Posted by JDUNITNOW

The force is with you.

The downFORCE is with him

[BMWRacer523]

lowering doesn't necessarily mean reduced performance (at least on well paved surfaces). of course if you slam it to the bump stops you will not be running optimal suspension setup. With HAS you can fine tune the weight balance which allows you to corner weight (if you want to go into all that level of detail).

I plan to install the MSS kit in the spring. I'm in NJ and the roads aren't like in Cali so I won't be going as low as Vic

[Yas_sir]

Not sure I’ve seen it mentioned. But if you lower the car too much, you throw off the geometry of the car’s suspension. Meaning your camber, toe and caster could be out of whack and you could make your handling worse than stock.

Not many people go to these lengths, but if you plan on lowering your car significantly you should at least consider adding adjustable arms to adjust toe and camber.

[BardG]

Originally Posted by Yas_sir

Not sure I've seen it mentioned. But if you lower the car too much, you throw off the geometry of the car's suspension. Meaning your camber, toe and caster could be out of whack and you could make your handling worse than stock.

Not many people go to these lengths, but if you plan on lowering your car significantly you should at least consider adding adjustable arms to adjust toe and camber.

Excellent, thank you!

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Yas_sir

Not sure I’ve seen it mentioned. But if you lower the car too much, you throw off the geometry of the car’s suspension. Meaning your camber, toe and caster could be out of whack and you could make your handling worse than stock.

Not many people go to these lengths, but if you plan on lowering your car significantly you should at least consider adding adjustable arms to adjust toe and camber.

Yes this is well known and thanks--- with my Portimao Blue I was able to get close to spec on Camber at minus 2.1 and got the toe within range. Toe is the absolute concern for me and street driving as toe scrub wears out tires faster than any other measure.

But I have not aligned my 22 yet since I went to get it done and my local shop didnt have the specs yet and now Im waiting for my updated kit to be installed.