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      05-26-2021, 06:15 PM   #287
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Or they will share then same panels for cost cutting???
Possibly, you never know. Either way, the base G 2 series looks to have decent fender arches so not too big a deal
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      05-26-2021, 06:58 PM   #288
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Or they will share then same panels for cost cutting???
No
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      05-26-2021, 09:38 PM   #289
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I don’t want that to be true either. I am eyeing a later year 28 or so LCI M2C for my last ICE manual car but it has happened before. E36 M3 and various M5’s so unless you have definite proof it’s always a possibility.
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      05-26-2021, 09:40 PM   #290
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I don’t want that to be true either. I am eyeing a later year 28 or so LCI M2C for my last ICE manual car but it has happened before. E36 M3 and various M5’s so unless you have definite proof it’s always a possibility.
Lemetier knows what he's talking about when it comes to BMW's products(even future)
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      05-27-2021, 03:04 AM   #291
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Great summary!

I heard great reviews about ZF 8 speed and i test drove a 240 couple last week at my dealership. Not sure if i was expecting a lot on based on what i read but ZF 8 speed is no match for dual clutch transmissions. It doesn't bring in the excitement or the raw feel. Yes, DCTs are clunky at low speeds but it definitely has a great overall character.

A little bit of background, i drove manuals all my life and DSG in VAG vehicles were the first automatics i ever owned.
You sir, have great taste in transmissions 👌
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      05-27-2021, 06:48 AM   #292
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You sir, have great taste in transmissions 👌
Thank you Sir!
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      05-27-2021, 08:49 AM   #293
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To summarize earlier posts, they are unlikely to be the final product. They are plastic pieces stuck over donor fenders for testing. FYI f you were hoping for them to make it to the final car.
They may be tack on plastics on this car but they do indicate the intended shape and width of the actual fenders on the upcoming G87
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      05-31-2021, 05:35 AM   #294
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      05-31-2021, 09:50 AM   #295
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Great, a wide screen TV. We aren't distracted enough with cell phones.
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      05-31-2021, 04:10 PM   #296
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That screen is really awkward looking, not integrated into the dash at all. I thought we were getting away from glued on screens.
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      05-31-2021, 06:50 PM   #297
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That screen is really awkward looking, not integrated into the dash at all. I thought we were getting away from glued on screens.
Agreed. It almost looks like someone temporarily leaned the screen up against the dashboard and then someone else came and glued it all down when that first person wasn't looking.

Also, I hate when the infotainment and the instruments are forced to share a housing. It really limits the vertical placement and angle of the screens, as those two factors must now be shared between infotainment and instrument clusters.

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      05-31-2021, 06:56 PM   #298
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just be happy we still get a scroll wheel. My wife's new Q7 is all touch screen. The UI is very nice but it's crap to use when you are driving. Mind you the virtual gauges are light years ahead of the crap BMW has...an somehow they seem to have made it worse in the i4. BMW is really pig headed with designs...they just double down even when it's a horrible design.
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      05-31-2021, 07:25 PM   #299
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      05-31-2021, 09:39 PM   #300
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Should be larger & clear if opened in a new tab.
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Oh it is, but it still looks like a wide screen tv. Not a fan. I guess soon they will replace the steering wheel altogether.
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      06-07-2021, 11:52 AM   #301
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... The changes provide the new, G87-generation M2 with much closer engineering ties to other M models than today’s M2 has. M division insiders say this will enable the new M2 to offer a further step up in performance while helping it to retain a reputation for dynamic excellence through the sharing of key components.

An internal source told Autocar: “It’s more powerful, with greater torque, but sharper, too. It’s still puristic, a driver’s car, but with a broader spread of characteristics, a greater divide between comfort and sport, than what we’ve seen up to now.”

... Details remain under wraps more than a year before its planned introduction but standard M2 models are expected to receive up to 410bhp, with the successor to today’s M2 Competition set to offer up to 430bhp, just 50bhp short of the standard M3 and M4. The rise in power is claimed to be accompanied by a moderate lift in torque. Again, nothing is official but BMW M sources have revealed to Autocar that the new M2 could have as much as 428lb ft – 22lb ft more than the existing M2 Competition and M2 CS.

...Distinguishing elements include a new-look front end with a lower and wider kidney grille than that seen on today’s M2 Competition. Set within a deep front bumper, it goes without traditional fixed vertical louvres, adopting electronically operated active elements that open and close to suit the cooling and heating demands of the new engine.

... The bonnet adopts a prominent power dome and the wheel arches have been enlarged to accommodate wheels of up to 20in. A more pronounced shoulder line runs back to form wider haunches below the rear side windows. The windscreen and rear window are also more heavily raked than on the first-generation M2, giving it an altogether sleeker appearance.

In keeping with more recent M models, the tail-lights have a heavily structured design with OLED graphics while the boot slopes down towards the rear and receives a larger lip spoiler than today’s model for added downforce. A wider diffuser is also integrated into the bottom of the rear bumper.

An optional carbonfibre package will allow prospective customers to specify the new car with various carbonfibre elements, including the roof and door mirrors, although the M2 Competition is set to get a carbonfibre roof as standard.

The new coupé has grown in size, albeit only moderately over today’s 4468mm-long, 1984mm-wide and 1410mm-tall M2 Competition. Along with the increase in dimensions, the wheelbase has been extended by 51mm, at 2744mm, and the tracks have been widened at the front and rear. Crucially, the new M2 will match the 50:50 weight distribution of the less powerful M240i.

Autocar has been told the CLAR platform adopted by the new 2 Series provides a 40% increase in body rigidity compared with the structure used by the old model. The new M2 will add further rigidity with its own unique front suspension dome brace strut and a new brace integrated within the rear suspension.

Underpinning the new M2 is a heavily reworked MacPherson strut front and multi-link rear suspension. Among the benefits of the new set-up cited by BMW M engineers is its ability to support increased front camber. It will be available with the choice of either lift-related or variable dampers.
AUTOCAR: New 2022 BMW M2 to be punchier, sharper and sleeker

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AUTOCAR: New 2022 BMW M2 to be punchier, sharper and sleeker

That is a sharp looking coupe.
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      06-09-2021, 02:50 PM   #303
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Wow I REEAAAAALLY hope it looks like that!!
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      06-09-2021, 02:55 PM   #304
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Wow I REEAAAAALLY hope it looks like that!!
Yeah and a vert would be even better.
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      06-09-2021, 03:04 PM   #305
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Wow I REEAAAAALLY hope it looks like that!!
with the abominations BMW has been releasing lately (not just the G8X) im not getting my hopes up, but that is definitely a nice looking car.
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      06-09-2021, 04:35 PM   #306
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WOW if it looks like that!! The headlights look good in that render, I still am worried about the tail lights though
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      06-09-2021, 07:30 PM   #307
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WOW if it looks like that!! The headlights look good in that render, I still am worried about the tail lights though
Head lights and tail lights design: will take some time getting used to.

Look at the soon to be presented G42 2er: 1 rectangular/squared lamp unit.





Earlier leaked G42 2er pictures:








Compare with the tail lights design of the recently presented X3M Competition:
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Head lights and tail lights design: will take some time getting used to.

Look at the soon to be presented G42 2er: 1 rectangular/squared lamp unit.

yeah when I saw the new x3m tail lights earlier I immediately thought of the 2 series, and how they are similar. I really hope they look much better than the X3M though, because those are kind of hideous IMO
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