Shmee on the M4 MT, and he dislikes carbon bucket seats

advantage20 · 05-28-2021, 04:24 PM

Thought I'd share - Shmee @15:37 not very happy about that bump in the middle of the bucket seat constantly rubbing alongside the clutch-pressing leg. I'm sure BMW have tested the ergonomics extensively before launching such a daring design, but it looks like they could easily have shaved 1 inch off the width of that bump to mitigate the potential inconvenience and still maintain the unique design with the visible carbon piece... Haven't really heard others complaining but the consensus seems to be you better be lean to really enjoy these. Probably one of those options you may want to test before ordering anyway.

As for the subsequent comment about a slight lack of torque down low on the non-Comp, bear in mind he is used to driving top supercars so take with a grain of salt

LOW4LYF · 05-28-2021, 04:33 PM

One more reason to get the competition version...

PLF69 · 05-28-2021, 04:53 PM

I'm reserving my opinion in a real car or mine when I get it. He's the first person I see complaining about it.

LTJohn · 05-28-2021, 08:26 PM

the 'bump' is purely for style points. As such, not a great idea. Why take away leg movement??

Cripes, my racecar doesn't have that bump and it pulls over 1.6Gs....

The bump is silly.

BIGW0RM · 05-28-2021, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PLF69

I'm reserving my opinion in a real car or mine when I get it. He's the first person I see complaining about it.

Another member turned his car in with them and bought one without them. The side bolster is what did him in. Its hard to get around and you hit it on the way in and out.

snareman · 05-28-2021, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

Another member turned his car in with them and bought one without them. The side bolster is what did him in. Its hard to get around and you hit it on the way in and out.

I pictured those side bolsters maybe being a little bit soft but they were like a rock trying to get over them. Not the least bit flexible, soft or comfortable

PLF69 · 05-28-2021, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

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Originally Posted by PLF69

I'm reserving my opinion in a real car or mine when I get it. He's the first person I see complaining about it.

Another member turned his car in with them and bought one without them. The side bolster is what did him in. Its hard to get around and you hit it on the way in and out.

I test drove them and it's a concession I am ready to do to have the benefits. I know it's going to be a pain sometimes but I am young (mid 30's) and I know I will hate myself deeply at the track if I don't have them.

I'll be honest and mean no disrespect to anyone here but I saw so many members ordering them just for the looks its just comical.. Most of them probably have absolutely no experience with these kind of seats and just think they need the coolest looking stuff.

I've said it before on the forum but unless you either track the car often (Wich I do) or you consciensly know what your getting into, don't even bother with the Carbon seats. They are at the same level of commitment as the Porsche buckets and No one orders there street Porsche with them.

They are way more serious than the AMG cooled

"buckets" and the Alfa ones..

And it's not like the regular seats are bad, they are very good !

Multimodal · 05-28-2021, 08:56 PM

Good video. Thanks for sharing!

LOW4LYF · 05-28-2021, 09:18 PM

Funny, getting in the G8x is super annoying, however no issues in the F90 M5 CS... Not as low and much more room between seat and steering wheel.

aford · 05-28-2021, 09:23 PM

They're cool. I bought them. I then drove with them. I liked it. The end.

It's an option. Let's not get too critical on either end.

snareman · 05-28-2021, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by aford

They're cool. I bought them. I then drove with them. I liked it. The end.

It's an option. Let's not get too critical on either end.

That's why we have options for the car. Some options aren't for everyone.

forza1976 · 05-28-2021, 09:26 PM

Because that dumbass is the barometer for all of us. FFS!

OneCleanBMW · 05-28-2021, 11:17 PM

You won't hear most people complain because they don't want to make it known they've made a mistake.

Leg chafing, and awkward leg sliding out of the vehicle, it's a no from me.

TrentMeister · 05-29-2021, 12:32 AM

Better seating position, better lateral stability, more comfortable than any aftermarket bucket I've personally sat in, and look beautiful to boot.

Standard seats are good too but there was no comparison for me between the cars I got to tryout.

Buckets ftw

Although cooling would have been nice.

And having my nephews tickle me through the cutouts is a definite negative.

khai Dow · 05-29-2021, 01:47 AM

I’m getting them - didn’t have a choice which makes things much easier. Part of the standard spec. Climbed in and out a few times in the dealership and it wasn’t terrible. The level of adjustment is surprising making them very comfortable. They also increase rear legroom

Peertwelve · 05-29-2021, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DocJohn

the 'bump' is purely for style points. As such, not a great idea. Why take away leg movement??

Cripes, my racecar doesn't have that bump and it pulls over 1.6Gs....

The bump is silly.

Agreed. Gimmicky.. seats seem great other than that. I hope to test some soon

southlight · 05-29-2021, 05:30 AM

I am by no means a lean person but I feel like I could live with them in a second car that is not the daily driver. What „bothers“ me most is the limited room for leg movement due to the side bolsters. Will be a tough decision but I think I will get them.

Stuffyourmomhates · 05-29-2021, 07:03 AM

The bump in the seat is removable and is for harness attachments

PLF69 · 05-29-2021, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Stuffyourmomhates

The bump in the seat is removable and is for harness attachments

Care to share proof/confirmation of this ?

I did check under the seats but it only looked like the carbon part could be removed but the small leather buldges stayed in place.

Zirenz2006 · 05-29-2021, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Stuffyourmomhates

The bump in the seat is removable and is for harness attachments

Haven't seen anyone actually prove that. That was a theory and I don't think its true.

SeanWRT · 05-29-2021, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by advantage20

it looks like they could easily have shaved 1 inch off the width of that bump

Being 1 inch smaller, it'd be sharp enough to poke you in the ball

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Multimodal · 05-30-2021, 07:18 PM

If you weigh 165 lb or less than they're great seats. If you weigh more than that then they're terrible seats.

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advantage20 Major 1874 Rep 1,230 Posts Drives: 330d Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: France iTrader: (0)	Shmee on the M4 MT, and he dislikes carbon bucket seats Thought I'd share - Shmee @15:37 not very happy about that bump in the middle of the bucket seat constantly rubbing alongside the clutch-pressing leg. I'm sure BMW have tested the ergonomics extensively before launching such a daring design, but it looks like they could easily have shaved 1 inch off the width of that bump to mitigate the potential inconvenience and still maintain the unique design with the visible carbon piece... Haven't really heard others complaining but the consensus seems to be you better be lean to really enjoy these. Probably one of those options you may want to test before ordering anyway. As for the subsequent comment about a slight lack of torque down low on the non-Comp, bear in mind he is used to driving top supercars so take with a grain of salt
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LTJohn First Lieutenant 140 Rep 309 Posts Drives: 2019 Porsche GT3 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	the 'bump' is purely for style points. As such, not a great idea. Why take away leg movement?? Cripes, my racecar doesn't have that bump and it pulls over 1.6Gs.... The bump is silly.
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