[BrockDM]

Originally Posted by kaizer

the overtake functionality sounds cool. But wouldnt that put more strain on the transmission gears skipping few gears down without going through the prior gears?

Its very useful. Ironically it's not available in my X3M Comp but it's been around for quite a while from Audi cars equipped with ZF transmissions. There is some sort of adaptation that allows it to quickly jump down gears efficiently causing no strain at all. I use it all the time on my S4

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by KoenG

Did you learn already something from the previous videos then?

Not much really. This whole video series ended being a let down for me.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by kaizer

the overtake functionality sounds cool. But wouldnt that put more strain on the transmission gears skipping few gears down without going through the prior gears?

Just as with a DCT, there is nothing that mechanically prevents the 8AT from skipping gears, no harm done.

[John-M007]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

They continue to tease us with Individual Colors in these videos. Laguna Seca looks better than any color offered (to me).

Audi's industrial colors are between $700 to $2,500. Mercedes individual colors are between $750 and $3,900. BMW is at $5,000. They need to hold their horses and bring these princesses down.

[SYT_Shadow]

So when you're driving around in auto and click the paddle it only goes to manual for a period of time, then reverts back to auto. So like normal automatics throughout the BMW range.
In the F8X and E9X generation, as soon as you hit the paddle it stays in manual.

I am not concerned about the decrease in shift speed. I run the DCT in the slowest mode on the track, so I guess this is similar.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Well, that was not very technical. Little to learn from this video...

I agree, plus no mention of the manual. It is a drivetrain option after all. I know this was a Comp models video, but it would've been nice to include it.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by John-M007

Audi's industrial colors are between $700 to $2,500. Mercedes individual colors are between $750 and $3,900. BMW is at $5,000. They need to hold their horses and bring these princesses down.

Do Audi and Mercedes let you choose any color on the planet like BMW does?

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by kaizer

the overtake functionality sounds cool. But wouldnt that put more strain on the transmission gears skipping few gears down without going through the prior gears?

Trust me, it's not a cool feature. If the lowest gear takes you within 100rpm of red line, it will still take you there, meaning an up shift needed almost straight away.

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by RoadRunner///M

Special feature to spin crank hub no doubt

What a waste of time these videos are vs the tech info that was released in the F8x. Shows what demographic BMW is now targetting.

I know you're joking but B58 and S58 have solved the crank hub problem, there's no possibility to spin it anymore since it's all one solid piece instead of being held together by 1 bolt on the N54/N55/S55.

[M2Cmtl]

Originally Posted by MrElussive

Very cool. Automatic is really a bummer. If they gonna force me to drive auto, I would have liked to be pushed into DCT. Doing my lease end return on my '18 M4 Convert 6-Speed on Thursday.
Just waiting until Fall for them to release the new M4 Convert with manual trans.

For sure the vert will be auto only.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

Trust me, it's not a cool feature. If the lowest gear takes you within 100rpm of red line, it will still take you there, meaning an up shift needed almost straight away.

That's why I have a BMS pedal stopper to never touch that kick down

Prevents me to use lunch control wich isn't a bad thing since it's one of the worst implementation of it lol.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Racer20

Ugh; I know. Now I see why he went to Hyundai. Either stay and watch BMW go down *this* path or go build something new in your own image somewhere else.

I remember reading an interview with him where he said that the move from DCT to 8AT on the F90 M5 was the last straw for him.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I remember reading an interview with him where he said that the move from DCT to 8AT on the F90 M5 was the last straw for him.

To be clear, you're stating that he moved to Korea from Germany because of the transmission on the F90 M5?

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

To be clear, you're stating that he moved to Korea from Germany because of the transmission on the F90 M5?

Read it for yourself: https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...bert-biermann/

"Then a few things happened, like the double-clutch transmission was canceled for the M5, and I thought, “This is not my game anymore,” and I left."

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Read it for yourself: https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...bert-biermann/

"Then a few things happened, like the double-clutch transmission was canceled for the M5, and I thought, “This is not my game anymore,” and I left."

Holy f***ing sh*t now there is a man of principle.

[ABenLauda]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

On an upshift with the 8AT your head will bobble forward, with a DCT your head bobbles rearward. This is what people perceive as the "jolt" or "surge" on DCT upshift and is what makes the DCT more engaging to drive and the better performance option.

So, an upshift while cornering (on track) might upset the car?

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by ABenChod

So, an upshift while cornering (on track) might upset the car?

DCT is smarter than that. If the sensors on the car detect that the car is under lateral load, the DCT will execute a seamless butter smooth shift. You can upshift without issue while cornering with a DCT because there is no interruption of power delivery and therefore no sudden back and forth weight transfer.

[ABenLauda]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

DCT is smarter than that. If the sensors on the car detect that the car is under lateral load, the DCT will execute a seamless butter smooth shift. You can upshift without issue while cornering with a DCT because there is no interruption of power delivery and therefore no sudden back and forth weight transfer.

My question was specific to this new ZF8.

I've experienced the M-DCT on track and it's one of the best parts of the F8x.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by ABenChod

My question was specific to this new ZF8.

I've experienced the M-DCT on track and it's one of the best parts of the F8x.

Sorry, I misinterpreted. I did drive an F90 M5 on track quite extensively, but I did not try upshifting mid-corner with it. You do feel that small pause in acceleration on upshift but it might not be enough to significantly upset the chassis unless you are at the absolute limit.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Read it for yourself: https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...bert-biermann/

"[COLOR="Blue"]Then a few things happened, like the double-clutch transmission was canceled for the M5, and I thought, “This is not my game anymore,” and I left.[/COLOR]"

....Sooooo is Hyundai filling that DCT gap for him?

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

....Sooooo is Hyundai filling that DCT gap for him?

[_E90S65_]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

We were spoiled with the F8X Technical Deep Dive and Interviews, actual geeking out. This is pretty lame in comparison. Another indicator as to what the G8X target audience is.

I couldn't agree more.
I miss the Dr. Biermann videos.