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A lot of new cars coming out with no manual options. The new C8 Vette, the Mustang GT500 and a slew of other performance cars. I think it could be a good position for BMW to be in. A lot of people who want a manual could be drawn to BMW who want a high end car.
Otherwise we will have just Mustang GTs and Mopars that have manuals as the death of the Camaro was just announced. Dave
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"MF: Manual is very important. The manual stick shift is not a performance-bringer, because an automatic transmission is just faster, you can ask any race driver. But it gives the vehicle character and I kind of compare it to people who love mechanical watches; it isn't more precise and it doesn't have any advantage at all but it's a character feature. So is a stick shift."
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Porsche is still making manuals. =)
Not sure if it is true but I heard next Gen of boxsters/ Cayman’s will be naturally aspirated as well again. However, I’m hoping there will be more manual 911s on the market. Love my F80 M3 but wish I did not get the DCT ugh... |
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07-26-2019, 10:18 AM | #98 |
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Mazda makes a good one too - my buddy had one of their little SUVs as a beater, and it had a manual. That thing was awesome to shift - made an otherwise boring car a lot of fun to drive.
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New M3/4 will be bigger, heavier (though probably not as heavy as my E92), have electronic steering, fake exhaust noise, a massive grill...BUT...a manual gearbox option most won't take- Yay, pursuits rejoice!
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I was offering to buy my wife a certified Passat SEL V6 all options Had the dealer clean and prep car. I was ready to leave with the car. I walk in with my wife, she opens the door stops dead in her tracks. Looks at me "It's an automatic" Walks out of the dealership |
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BOOM, good news Friday!!!
The car is still going to have to be as beautiful as the F8x series, with no stupid huge grills (I guess the Lexus tail lights are going to be a given though). It also better not start at $90k or whatever, needs to be close price wise to the C8 to get my interest! |
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I knew someone would admit it. I really wanted the car but had this sinking feeling I'd miss the MT. So I ended up getting another M4 MT after my first lease was up. I should have just bought the damn car oh wellz. Hope the new one doesn't look like a turd :/
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Its clear to me now that Porsche remains most committed to the enthusiast driving experience and they have seen their competitions brand strategy and have cleverly positioned theirs to avoid some of the pitfalls. GT4/Spyder with N/A engines and 6MT? And word that the regular 718/Boxsters may go back to NA? Call me a dreamer but I'm even hoping they'll find some way, even if it is electrical/computerized trickery, to get the manual gearbox into an electric 911. Because they're Porsche and thats what they do Hopefully new M3/M4 brings the customer closer to the enthusiast experience than the opposite. |
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Look how much shit they have got from customers and reviewers alike by introducing an uninspiring flat-4 turbo engine on 718. We should push M to make again real sports cars with MTs and automated manuals, not the comfortable automatic grocery getters.
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