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Yes, AWD M3/M4 like the F90 M5 | 199 | 63.38% | |
No, keep it RWD | 76 | 24.20% | |
Either way is cool with me | 39 | 12.42% | |
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05-24-2017, 09:39 PM | #46 |
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M just dropped another video - they're pushing the xdrive hard
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05-25-2017, 06:01 PM | #47 |
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I thought the next^2 one is going to be at least a hybrid if not all electric...
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The dynamic ability of the M3 and the quality of the interior won out in the end. Not to mention connected drive and coding which isn't available on the Benz. I never thought I'd leave AMG but the F80 to me is near perfection both interior and exterior wise. And for me cost didn't play a role at all. The fact that the M3 was cheaper than the C63 was an unexpected bonus. Anybody that has driven a C63 sedan would know there is just no comparison between handling and dynamism that an M car provides. The gearbox on the C63 has improved but it's no where near as good as our DCT or the ZF gearbox which will likely become the standard across the BMW range in the future. My one major dissapointed with the M3 was the exhaust. The M performance exhaust upgrade has fixed that issue. The much harder decision for me was between the Alfa quadrifuglio and the M3. In the end reliability concerns scared me off the Alfa. But it is one impressive beast. Last edited by drgmt; 05-26-2017 at 08:46 AM.. |
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Don't feel bad though - I thought the next one was going to be a flying car powered by bloomin' onions and a teaspoon of mayonnaise. At least that's what I read on the internet @ BimmerPoop.org. |
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I am ok with Xdrive I will boost sales in the New England area.
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One Word if they do it will be a big plus for people who lives in a region with lots of rain and snow
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05-26-2017, 12:47 PM | #52 | |
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He's probably right given the design lead times and costs, but intuitively I think BMW should go for it. |
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05-26-2017, 05:44 PM | #53 |
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With less than 500hp (as I read on bimmerpost), better control system and better suspension settings, the Gxx M3 can surely do without M xDrive.
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05-26-2017, 05:48 PM | #54 |
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lol. It has been too quiet, we need fresh M3 rumors now the big brother is almost out!
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06-02-2017, 01:30 PM | #56 |
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just a few votes so far, but interesting - most people either want AWD or don't care. Maybe BMW has focus grouped this and found the same thing?
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06-02-2017, 02:37 PM | #57 |
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I don't see what the downside is. For those that like or need the AWD it's there. For traditionalists you never have to turn it on if you don't want to. For everyone else you can pick what you want at any given moment. Yeah it'll add some weight but they'll figure a way out to mitigate the weight gain in other areas. Seems like a win-win to me.
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What I would really love is a dynamic AWD system that turns itself on and off only when the rear tires slip. If the rear tires are not slipping I do not want the front tires powered at all (even if it's just 10% or very little), just like the GTR and 911 do. It's cool that BMW offers manual control to turn the AWD system off but I prefer an automated system when its a RWD car 99% of the time, unless the rears lose traction. I guess long winded way of saying I think BMW is dropping the ball with their implementation if I am understanding the system correctly. Last edited by neilum; 06-02-2017 at 07:51 PM.. |
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Some people prefer having the control of being able to turn it on and off, some others just leave it as it is and let the car take care of it. BMW is not Porsche, nor should they try to copy what a Porsche car does. Most common folk who buys the M (or AMG, Porsche etc) hardly care for these types of things. I doubt they would turn things on and off. As with most people who just have money, they want a car because of the badge first, performance 2nd. Us enthusiasts on the other hand care for performance first.
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How does turning off the AWD help? Weight is still there. Traction is worse? I feel like the big issue with AWD is the weight not the performance. If you had the option of same weight in a F80 but one with only rear wheels driving and the other with all 4 wheels driving what would you choose?
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There's a fundamental question that the M department needs to figure out. Are they going to keep going down the "more is better" rabbit hole? More tech, more power, more complexity, more dealer service, more weight, more money....and less ultimate driving machine. Do we really want what the M5 is becoming, 4500 pounds of tech bloat where we can all debate how bad iDrive 12.0 still is? Call me a purist, but I'll gladly take less of all that....and more of a real ultimate driving machine. What made these cars great once upon a time was their balance, handling characteristics, steering feedback, and power that didn't overcome all of the above. At some point I'm hoping BMW stops trying to build cars for a 0-60 magazine headline, and maybe goes against the trend and gets back to what made them such fun cars to begin with. Now someone get those damn kids off my lawn!
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but you read it here first: the next M4 will have M xDrive. Either that or it won't, but I'm POSITIVE it'll be one of the two.
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if the next m3 is awd, im probably bailing.
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