[vj123]

Originally Posted by Chicane_

In my opinion, very high.

I dont think BMW would have developed G80/2 platform with manual transmission just to sell it for a few years especially when this is the last M3/4 with ICE.

[Chicane_]

Originally Posted by vj123

I dont think BMW would have developed G80/2 platform with manual transmission just to sell it for a few years especially when this is the last M3/4 with ICE.

I think the decision will have more to do with emissions and compatibility with potential hybridization.

It’s just a hunch so let’s see. I just wouldn’t delay a purchase because one assumes that manuals will still be around after 2024.

[FrozenGT]

Yeah, I’m working with a dealer of mine and I want to make sure I get the LCI but at the same time I’m trying to figure out when the LCI to go live even though I have no clue what the car is going to look like.. I don’t want to order a non-LCI.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by FrozenGT

Yeah, I’m working with a dealer of mine and I want to make sure I get the LCI but at the same time I’m trying to figure out when the LCI to go live even though I have no clue what the car is going to look like.. I don’t want to order a non-LCI.

Then you’ll need to wait until next year to order.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by Chicane_

I think the decision will have more to do with emissions and compatibility with potential hybridization.

It’s just a hunch so let’s see. I just wouldn’t delay a purchase because one assumes that manuals will still be around after 2024.

BMW has already planned to produce G80/82/83 longer when compared with the typical M lifecycle and would want to extract every penny without additional investments. Other than minor hp increase and visual upgrades, i dont think they will be brining in a major change like hybridization.

Again, everything is just a speculation and time will tell us soon.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Blindside_137

Almost every LCI M car lately has gotten some form of front bumper and grille update. Look at the M5 and upcoming X5 M.

I would be surprised if BMW changes nothing on the front end. But I do not expect them to give it an F8x sized grille.

Will be interesting to see what is changed, and when.

2024 X5 M front end (hosting the new S68 4.4-liter V8 engine):





2024 X6 M front end (hosting the new S68 4.4-liter V8 engine):

[Young04]

Originally Posted by Artemis

2024 X5 M front end (hosting the new S68 4.4-liter V8 engine):

2024 X6 M front end (hosting the new S68 4.4-liter V8 engine):

The DRLs seem like a downgrade. The rest of the exterior changes seem like lateral moves.

[Blindside_137]

Originally Posted by Artemis

2024 X5 M front end (hosting the new S68 4.4-liter V8 engine):

2024 X6 M front end (hosting the new S68 4.4-liter V8 engine):

Thanks for quoting that. I think it’s a given at this point the G80/G82 get some type of front end refresh. It is just a matter of to what degree.

I hope they doing give it the X5/X6 DRL’s. These don’t look good.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Young04

The DRLs seem like a downgrade. The rest of the exterior changes seem like lateral moves.

Originally Posted by Blindside_137

I hope they doing give it the X5/X6 DRL’s. These don’t look good.

Agreed, hopefully those new DRLs are not carried over to the M3/M4 facelift expected for next year.

[MichaelB1969]

Originally Posted by Blindside_137

Thanks for quoting that. I think it’s a given at this point the G80/G82 get some type of front end refresh. It is just a matter of to what degree.

I hope they doing give it the X5/X6 DRL’s. These don’t look good.

Wondered what it would look like if the area below the grille was painted vs. piano black. Pardon the crappy photo editing job (not my day job).

Also, they should have reshaped either the grille or the lower intake so they'd meet at a more natural point in my opinion.

[Blindside_137]

Originally Posted by MichaelB1969

Wondered what it would look like if the area below the grille was painted vs. piano black. Pardon the crappy photo editing job (not my day job).

Nice work. Much better to me.

[RTC3000]

Originally Posted by FrozenGT

Yeah, I’m working with a dealer of mine and I want to make sure I get the LCI but at the same time I’m trying to figure out when the LCI to go live even though I have no clue what the car is going to look like.. I don’t want to order a non-LCI.

LCI won't get any radical visual changes, don't worry.

[bmwdrive]

I was going to wait for the LCI but I just got a G80 build slot out of the blue. I have no problem waiting, but prices I'm sure will increase again with the LCI and I'm not sure it's worth the extra cost or the extra wait. I hope I don't kick myself later but I'm thinking to just pull the trigger.

[Forzanerazzurri]

LCI will almost certainly have new headlight and taillight designs. The tails on the m3 are pretty bland.

[bmwdrive]

I like the headlights and taillights. I even like the grill. But if they do some major rework of the grill I might want that for the fresher look. I'm also maybe one of the few who would like the mild hybrid to minimize lag. Paying a few $K for that however is another story not to mention waiting another year plus. If all they do is tweak headlights and taillights, then I really don't care.

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

LCI will almost certainly have new headlight and taillight designs. The tails on the m3 are pretty bland.

I'm guessing it'll have the 48v mild hybrid system also, the m340i has it and the new x5m just got it too. It adds 12hp and 147lb-ft of torque, not on top of the current engine but in between during tip in acceleration, this should get rid of some of the lag people complain aboot on s58.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by forcefed

I'm guessing it'll have the 48v mild hybrid system also, the m340i has it and the new x5m just got it too. It adds 12hp and 147lb-ft of torque, not on top of the current engine but in between during tip in acceleration, this should get rid of some of the lag people complain aboot on s58.

Oh good, I can't wait to see the war zones in the threads on that.

[Humdizzle]

makes me wonder if there will be a LCI CSL... or maybe they will just do a GTS

[DanTheManG80]

Originally Posted by danf72

I was going to wait for the LCI but I just got a G80 build slot out of the blue. I have no problem waiting, but prices I'm sure will increase again with the LCI and I'm not sure it's worth the extra cost or the extra wait. I hope I don't kick myself later but I'm thinking to just pull the trigger.

I was in the exact situation. The day after I decided to wait for the LCI, the CA called me with an allocation. I plan to lease so this gives me a chance to order the LCI at the end of the lease, before they get rid of the manual (if they do).