Sottozero II vs PA4

Aeromotive · 09-29-2022, 09:24 AM

Looking to finalize my purchase for winter tires (on stock rims) and I'd like some opinions on 2 options :

Option 1: Sottozero II at stock size

Option 2 : PA4 at 265/35R19 (for some reason 1010tires says they're not produced/available in 275?), which results in a 1.1% rolling diameter variation.

PA4's from 1010tires.com are 300 CAD cheaper than the Sottozero II from my local shop.

Looking for some opinions on stretching the tire + different rolling diameter vs the better performing (and cheaper) PA4. Is it worth it to save money AND get better performance, or should I stick with the Sottozero at stock size?

Thanks.

8262S · 09-29-2022, 09:38 AM

I am not familiar with the PA4, but am planning on putting PA5’s on my winter wheels.

You are correct that the 275/35R19’s are not as easy to find. But at least with the PA5’s they are available at the dealership and Walmart in that size. So it’s just a matter of looking around.

I did not want to deviate from OEM sizes, so this was important to me.

Have you considered the PA5? Isn’t it the newer design?

kiw1 · 09-29-2022, 10:07 AM

This test just came out a few days ago and has the PA5's as top dog

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/...-Tyre-Test.htm

Aeromotive · 09-29-2022, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8262S

I am not familiar with the PA4, but am planning on putting PA5’s on my winter wheels.

You are correct that the 275/35R19’s are not as easy to find. But at least with the PA5’s they are available at the dealership and Walmart in that size. So it’s just a matter of looking around.

I did not want to deviate from OEM sizes, so this was important to me.

Have you considered the PA5? Isn’t it the newer design?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiw1

This test just came out a few days ago and has the PA5's as top dog

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/...-Tyre-Test.htm

I'm in Canada, we'll probably get the PA5's when the PA6's are out

The options I listed are really the only ones I have.

Forzanerazzurri · 09-29-2022, 03:32 PM

Isn't the pzero winter the appropriate competitor for the PA5?

DocWeatherington · 09-29-2022, 04:13 PM

I've had PA4 on my F90 CP and they perform well in northern Virginia winter. Snow traction is good for the type of tire and solid in the slush.

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