[juliusoh]

Hate cheaping out but for a daily driver do we cheap out and go with RW Carbon or commit to a premium level like MHC?

[RW Carbon]

MHC and our parts will be similar price and quality. If you have any questions about a particular part please PM me or you are welcome to come by our shop in Anaheim to see the parts in person.

[mike@x-ph.com]

That depends on what you are looking for, post a link of the two front lips you are asking about and i can give you my honest opinion since we offer both brands.

[juliusoh]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

That depends on what you are looking for, post a link of the two front lips you are asking about and i can give you my honest opinion since we offer both brands.

https://x-ph.com/mhc-bmw-g80-m3-perf...8aAkAQEALw_wcB

versus

https://x-ph.com/rw-carbon-bmw-g80-m...kaAso_EALw_wcB

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by juliusoh

https://x-ph.com/mhc-bmw-g80-m3-perf...8aAkAQEALw_wcB

versus

https://x-ph.com/rw-carbon-bmw-g80-m...kaAso_EALw_wcB

in my opinion, MHC is better quality; whether that means it's worth the extra $600 is a personal opinion.

Since it's a daily driver, there's always a chance of damage. I'd feel much more comfortable replacing a $1,200 part instead of an $1,800 one. For my daily driver, I prefer brands similar to RW, offering good quality and fitment without being overly expensive.

[juliusoh]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

in my opinion, MHC is better quality; whether that means it's worth the extra $600 is a personal opinion.

Since it's a daily driver, there's always a chance of damage. I'd feel much more comfortable replacing a $1,200 part instead of an $1,800 one. For my daily driver, I prefer brands similar to RW, offering good quality and fitment without being overly expensive.

Thats why I was thinking about PPF if it was MHC or other premium brands is PPF worth on CF trim?

[carbon-black]

Not sure I see a substantive difference other than price.

[RichardGM4]

I went for an MHC+ MP-style front splitter on my last car (G82 M4) and was totally happy with the quality and fitment. I’ve also bought a few other MHC+ carbon bits for my cars.

I’ve installed MHC+ rear winglet side spats on my current car (G80 M3) but went for CT Carbon V3 carbon side skirts because they had the design I wanted, rather than the MP-style side skirts, as I’m not 100% sold on the size of the winglets on them.

Personally, as long as you’re buying from a reputable retailer/supplier (as opposed to cheap shit carbon from ebay or aliexpress for example), you’ll struggle to tell the difference compared to each other and compared to OEM, once they're fitted to the car.

MHC+ is definitely good quality but it’s not the only option out there. (fyi I’m in the UK so RW Carbon isn't really an option for me, otherwise I would’ve considered their 3D Style side skirts, which are similar / the same as the ones I bought from CT Carbon)

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by RichardGM4

I went for an MHC+ MP-style front splitter on my last car (G82 M4) and was totally happy with the quality and fitment. I’ve also bought a few other MHC+ carbon bits for my cars.

I’ve installed MHC+ rear winglet side spats on my current car (G80 M3) but went for CT Carbon V3 carbon side skirts because they had the design I wanted, rather than the MP-style side skirts, as I’m not 100% sold on the size of the winglets on them.

Personally, as long as you’re buying from a reputable retailer/supplier (as opposed to cheap shit carbon from ebay or aliexpress for example), you’ll struggle to tell the difference compared to each other and compared to OEM, once they're fitted to the car.

MHC+ is definitely good quality but it’s not the only option out there. (fyi I’m in the UK so RW Carbon isn't really an option for me, otherwise I would’ve considered their 3D Style side skirts, which are similar / the same as the ones I bought from CT Carbon)

Glad to hear you are happy with your pick, would love to see pictures of the car with the new carbon goodies

[RW Carbon]

Originally Posted by RichardGM4

I went for an MHC+ MP-style front splitter on my last car (G82 M4) and was totally happy with the quality and fitment. I’ve also bought a few other MHC+ carbon bits for my cars.

I’ve installed MHC+ rear winglet side spats on my current car (G80 M3) but went for CT Carbon V3 carbon side skirts because they had the design I wanted, rather than the MP-style side skirts, as I’m not 100% sold on the size of the winglets on them.

Personally, as long as you’re buying from a reputable retailer/supplier (as opposed to cheap shit carbon from ebay or aliexpress for example), you’ll struggle to tell the difference compared to each other and compared to OEM, once they're fitted to the car.

MHC+ is definitely good quality but it’s not the only option out there. (fyi I’m in the UK so RW Carbon isn't really an option for me, otherwise I would’ve considered their 3D Style side skirts, which are similar / the same as the ones I bought from CT Carbon)

Thank you for the consideration. We do ship to Europe on a daily basis so if there is anything you would like a quote on, please feel free to reach out.

[RichardGM4]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Glad to hear you are happy with your pick, would love to see pictures of the car with the new carbon goodies

[RichardGM4]

Originally Posted by RichardGM4

That’s good to know for future reference- thanks!

Originally Posted by RW Carbon

Thank you for the consideration. We do ship to Europe on a daily basis so if there is anything you would like a quote on, please feel free to reach out.

That’s good to know for future reference - thanks!

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by RichardGM4

[juliusoh]

Originally Posted by RichardGM4

Are those the OEM bmw wheels? 21/20 how are they?

[RichardGM4]

Originally Posted by juliusoh

Are those the OEM bmw wheels? 21/20 how are they?

Yes they’re the standard CS wheels - 827M and they’re 19” front and 20” rear

[G(80)zuss]

You honestly think there is a difference in where these two are made? Lol.

[RichardGM4]

Originally Posted by G(80)zuss

You honestly think there is a difference in where these two are made? Lol.

[G(80)zuss]

Originally Posted by RichardGM4

lol true! Absolutely zero difference in quality. Almost all the companies now using dry carbon and fit pretty perfect. Been researching this for over 3 years, dongsai, ATCF and like 2 other brands make everybody’s stuff. Don’t get suckered. No lip should be over $500 landed in the US

[Game]

Originally Posted by G(80)zuss

lol true! Absolutely zero difference in quality. Almost all the companies now using dry carbon and fit pretty perfect. Been researching this for over 3 years, dongsai, ATCF and like 2 other brands make everybody’s stuff. Don’t get suckered. No lip should be over $500 landed in the US

Even lips from Dongsai and ACTCF cost over $500. Where are you finding these lips for sub-$500?

[Gang80]

Originally Posted by G(80)zuss

lol true! Absolutely zero difference in quality. Almost all the companies now using dry carbon and fit pretty perfect. Been researching this for over 3 years, dongsai, ATCF and like 2 other brands make everybody’s stuff. Don’t get suckered. No lip should be over $500 landed in the US

This. Carbon fiber and any company on here is essentially a scam at this point. It’s laughable that so many tout purchases from x company with such pride when they’ve literally paid double to triple the value without cause. In addition, most buying from x company aren’t even aware that they are not manufacturing the part but rather just doubling the China price.

For example, RW is 90% recycled molds even if they manufacture in house. They have the audacity to hold themselves as some sort of tuning company when they just rip off shit. They literally knocked off the RSC diffuser and have the gaul to charge the exact same price despite it not being authentic.

I think the older crowd gets taken the most/worst for their pockets because they’re used to the association between name brand and quality. 10 years ago that would have been true, but now it’s simply not.

Originally Posted by Game

Even lips from Dongsai and ACTCF cost over $500. Where are you finding these lips for sub-$500?

$450 shipped dry carbon pre peg 2x2
10/10 fitment, 10/10 weave. Didnt even need double sided tape it lined up so well.

[juliusoh]

Originally Posted by Gang80

This. Carbon fiber and any company on here is essentially a scam at this point. It’s laughable that so many tout purchases from x company with such pride when they’ve literally paid double to triple the value without cause. In addition, most buying from x company aren’t even aware that they are not manufacturing the part but rather just doubling the China price.

For example, RW is 90% recycled molds even if they manufacture in house. They have the audacity to hold themselves as some sort of tuning company when they just rip off shit. They literally knocked off the RSC diffuser and have the gaul to charge the exact same price despite it not being authentic.

I think the older crowd gets taken the most/worst for their pockets because they’re used to the association between name brand and quality. 10 years ago that would have been true, but now it’s simply not.



$450 shipped dry carbon pre peg 2x2
10/10 fitment, 10/10 weave. Didnt even need double sided tape it lined up so well.

Sounds like I should just get dongsai lol

[Game]

Originally Posted by Gang80

This. Carbon fiber and any company on here is essentially a scam at this point. It’s laughable that so many tout purchases from x company with such pride when they’ve literally paid double to triple the value without cause. In addition, most buying from x company aren’t even aware that they are not manufacturing the part but rather just doubling the China price.

For example, RW is 90% recycled molds even if they manufacture in house. They have the audacity to hold themselves as some sort of tuning company when they just rip off shit. They literally knocked off the RSC diffuser and have the gaul to charge the exact same price despite it not being authentic.

I think the older crowd gets taken the most/worst for their pockets because they’re used to the association between name brand and quality. 10 years ago that would have been true, but now it’s simply not.



$450 shipped dry carbon pre peg 2x2
10/10 fitment, 10/10 weave. Didnt even need double sided tape it lined up so well.

From where? I can't find MHC lips anywhere directly from China. I see the same CS style lips and M Performance all over the place but can't find some of the good stuff.