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Originally Posted by 10"
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Originally Posted by akkando
The difference is enough that I don't think I would buy a zf8 vehicle in the future. Just got a loaner with a zf8 and I don't like the way it feels when it shifts, it has this odd feeling I'm not sure how to describe that makes the car feel like it sort of lurches in a strange way. The down shifts were slow. It doesn't really feel mechanical. I don't like it. The DCT feels crisp. I know you're rolling you eyes, but keep in mind the general public rolls their eyes when someone complains the MT is less available now and will be gone some day.
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Yep. 8 speed ZFs are terrible. Remind me of every ordinary autobox ever made. I'm not a huge fan of DCT either BUT they're not terrible—-there is a certain satisfaction to their mechanics and level of detail.
Don't give a crap about "shift speed". Care more about how things feel. ZF feels like garbage. DCT is a good compromise. Manual is the real deal. |
Please. As a manual diehard, the ZF 8HP is eons better than the slush boxes of yesteryear. If you can't tell or understand the mechanical differences, then you are either completely numb or just being hyperbolic. In my wife's car, if you throw the trans into Manual mode and the car into Sport+, the car will bang out shifts pretty hard under full throttle.