[Llarry]

I think I can be said to be "old" at 75. <g> I had an F80 and now have a G80 6-speed. I was not too fond of the F80 -- it seemed too large. The G80 feels smaller, even though I know it is larger and heavier. There was a year-plus gap between the cars, but I judge the ride to be more or less equal. For what it's worth...