[Nahlem]

So the nail in the eye for many is, they are adding certain models that people don't consider true M cars to the M lineup of sales and that is bothering people because? Watering out the brand? Other people being able to call their cars M cars? While some other people won't feel unique anymore because more cars being called M cars? The engineering put in to the car? What the community "precives" as an M Car.

Would you call the M235i the first one that came along an M Car? Or is there a certain title needed to be earned to be called an M Car.

Because i remember when the M235i came the one before this FWD based version came. I Remember reading the amount of work being put in to it from the M division even though they didn't mobiles the whole M division and because of that it wasn't a true M Car?

Because if the car has received a lot of work from the M Division people but not the full engagement it is by then not or shouldn't be called M because, M didn't engage all of their staff to it, because they probably were back then already working on the regular M2 witch still had the N55 engine also i remember then it was called by some people not a "proper M" because it didn't share the S engine until the M2 Competition came.

Interesting how some people seem to completely identify with their M cars and at times you would think BMW's greatness has passed and the last true "M" was the E90/92/93 and everything after that is just a mock up of what used to be so great about M cars.


M-Sport (not M Cars) Only aesthetics in some cases brakes and suspension upgrades but nothing to the engine.
M-Performance (not M Cars) Because it didn't get the so called "full" treatment from M division.
M (True M Cars) The only true M cars because everyone else is faking it and buying cheap "M" knock offs?