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Originally Posted by adc
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Originally Posted by Bosozoku
Great seeing you and the G80 on the drive last month!
See you at the GGC Laguna event this year, right!?
I think the two issues that M GmbH faced when creating the the F80/2 were:
1. They were stuck with the base F30/2 platform as a starting point.
2. They weren't allowed to radically re-engineer the chassis because of cost.
I once drove an ex-boss' F30 330i and despised it. BMW went too far toward the cushy
car-for-the-masses end of the spectrum with that generation of 3/4 Series.
And if M were allowed to completely fix the handling with a serious redesign, the cars would have
ended up with a $10k higher sticker, which may have hurt sales.
Engineering is about doing the best with what you're given to work with, and the F80/2 was
the best that M could do with the base car, engineering budget, and price target.
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A lot of assumptions there.
You have no idea what the engineering budget was for these two generations of M cars...
You still cannot excuse them putting a common 8at in the car.
You're forgetting that tires make incredible progress across the years. The F80 came out with PSS, and now I have PS4S on it, the increase in traction over the PSS is not subtle especially in the wet. And they're not even "BMW spec" Michelins, still they improve over the PSS in all aspects.
Since now I run tires similar to the G80, an engine tune which puts me in the neighbordhood of the G80 ZCP, I'd be very curious to see if there are any real life differences on the street. |
Both sides of the aisle make assumptions.