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Originally Posted by HeelToeShift
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Originally Posted by vetteflier
If you can even find one--not even Champion has any 911s in stock, the Carrera S2 goes for >$135,000 with the "normal" vastly overpriced options they all are ordered with. A nicely optioned M3/4 Comp is mid '80s. $50,000 is a LOT of money. The 992 is a great car. So is a Ferrari 812. But price/performance comes into it for most of us. The M gives very little away--VERY little, in performance and is far more luxurious, IMO. Easy choice.
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Price aside, I think the 911 exudes a much higher level of luxury, quality and finishing overall. Thing is, you cannot get a 911 right now and if you can you're paying over.
I can have an m3 or m4 at a decent discount. There's a lot of value in the M3/4 which that is partly what sells them - although the M3 will depreciate a lot so that delta in new price becomes much closer. Porsche is not about value nor will it ever will be yet the demand is through the roof even for a base 911. Just wait to see the GTS...
To me, if you want the best all around GT/sport car the 911 is the hands down winner as it continues to prove to be.
If you need practicality, but want performance the m3 is the car to have.
The winner here beyond which car you pick is you and I. Both available in manual and are fun to drive. |
Yes, allocations are difficult right now. Fortunately I found one. You're fairly spot on with pricing. My car is $137,050, but I also optioned the $7,000 GT3-esque AeroKit. Subtract that and a few excess leather options that a Full Leather M3 doesn't have (...
leather wrapped steering console and map light area) and the price drops to $128k-ish. My G8X at MSRP was $86,000, so your point is still fair. BMW definitely spoils us for the money. I concede that. The 992 represents the first time I actually like the dash area of a Porsche. It's the first time I've ever liked the manual transmission shift knob of a Porsche. In fact, the rear end design of the 992 is fantastic. It was the perfect time for me to make the jump. With more money available I would have a G82 and my 992 Carrera S, but alas, I'm not a baller......so the Porsche won. It was always going to win eventually.
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Originally Posted by Silber
A tie with a 911 is a huge win for BMW, especially when it comes to value.
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Agreed! BMW M has always been the value option. I love the M3/M4. If I weren't finally going Porsche my G8X would be here in July/August.
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Originally Posted by Thescout13
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Originally Posted by HeelToeShift
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Originally Posted by vetteflier
If you can even find one--not even Champion has any 911s in stock, the Carrera S2 goes for >$135,000 with the "normal" vastly overpriced options they all are ordered with. A nicely optioned M3/4 Comp is mid '80s. $50,000 is a LOT of money. The 992 is a great car. So is a Ferrari 812. But price/performance comes into it for most of us. The M gives very little away--VERY little, in performance and is far more luxurious, IMO. Easy choice.
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Price aside, I think the 911 exudes a much higher level of luxury, quality and finishing overall. Thing is, you cannot get a 911 right now and if you can you're paying over.
I can have an m3 or m4 at a decent discount. There's a lot of value in the M3/4 which that is partly what sells them - although the M3 will depreciate a lot so that delta in new price becomes much closer. Porsche is not about value nor will it ever will be yet the demand is through the roof even for a base 911. Just wait to see the GTS...
To me, if you want the best all around GT/sport car the 911 is the hands down winner as it continues to prove to be.
If you need practicality, but want performance the m3 is the car to have.
The winner here beyond which car you pick is you and I. Both available in manual and are fun to drive. |
I'm getting a 992 C2S and am not paying over MSRP, nor are others on here that are getting 992s…..
Also, that is for an ordered car and euro delivery in the fall.
All the G80s and allocations for G80s within a couple 100 miles of me are all marked up $10-20k.
Agree on all your other points. Also, a 911 C2S is the only non-GT luxury sports car that holds 70%+ of its value over three years (assuming you don't option it to something ridiculous like over $145k). |
Yep, I'm getting mine under sticker luckily.