[Avaley]

I've been struggling to have conversations that don't involve the grille sucks (which i also don't like) so with all the cosmetics discussions going on, lets talk about the potential of the S58 engine, particularly in the M3/M4 comp and their performance to value proposition.

An X3M with an ECU tune has shown the S58 in a larger package to be a 3.0s and 11s car to 60 and 1/4, respectively. Clearly the S58 is capable of holding 600+ whp and with 400-600lbs less, is the G8x setting the new benchmark in the industry in terms of performance per dollar?

Other than the C8 Corvette, muscle cars and M2CS / G87, C63 are there any other cars that can truly match the S58 dollar per dollar (under $85k USD)? Who else is a competitor in this class?

Would like to keep this civil and an educational discussion please.