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      11-09-2021, 05:47 PM   #18
KevinGS
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Originally Posted by AndroidRobot View Post
I had an M2 with the DCT and I miss it dearly. The M3 is quick but in lower gears near redline it has a noticeable delay in shifting manually even in S3. The ZF8 isn't as fast and never will beat the M-DCT. I'm okay with it but I miss the drama and speed of my DCT. Shift are still very quick they simply lack the same lightning speed


If you actually drive the car at the limit you'll miss the DCT. I wasn't bothered by the low speed jerks or how it would roll back, that made it more fun. I drove my M2 at the limit and loved how well the DCT was in manual mode. I can't speak fully to the ZF8 in that regard yet but while smoother it'll never be as fun.

End rant of me saying the same thing several ways

The revs hang/delay need redline with the ZF8 slowly kills me though. Maybe lol get past that
Agreed. When driving near or at the limit, I have definitely missed the urgency and crispness of the DCT. The ZF shifts are just too smoothed out (and slightly delayed), especially when upshifting to the next highest gear.

I literally just got out of my E93, and I just smiled the whole time, as I went up and down the gears with the DCT. It's quite noticeable when you drive the ZF8 and DCT back-to-back.

Having said that, it wasn't a deal breaker, and I still enjoy driving my G82, A LOT. But with the ZF8, the increased weight and size and the sublime, linear delivery of power, it feels more like a highly capable GT car most of the time than a rabid, frisky high-performance motorsports car. You have to really be pushing this car for it to feel like an M3 of old. I myself like the grown up version of the M3/4 chassis, which is still quite fun when you're at the limit. I love the comfort and all the tech on long drives.

But I'd be lying if I said I miss the DCT. I wish they would have kept it. I would have definitely sacrificed some of the smoothness of the ZF for the fierceness of the DCT.

In closing, I'm quite glad I still have my E93...to experience the rawness of that V8 coupled with the DCT.

And I completely understand anyone deciding to just keep their F8X platform, tune it to 650+ horsepower, and just keep driving it. The G8X is simply a completely different experience altogether, and the same could be said from anyone moving from the E36 to the E46, or the E46 to the E92, or the E92 to the F82. None of these cars felt the same as the predecessor, and that hasn't changed for the G8X platform.

Last edited by KevinGS; 11-09-2021 at 11:06 PM..
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