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      09-14-2021, 04:46 PM   #6
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I car with no soul and not even a Kia level interior. The speed is just a gimmick to me. I would rather have a luxury Merc EQS and have money left over. Tesla is going to be playing catchup soon. Rivian is going to blow away Tesla in the pickup segment. The Germans will bring the luxury Tesla can't bring. The rest of the world manufactures are coming too.
They have been saying this for a long time but Tesla is still doing great. Tesla is more than just speed, the convenience of the softwares in the car is awesome, until the Germans can catch up in this area, just more leather inside the car isn't going to overtake Tesla.

With that said, I am still old school, I enjoy driving ICE cars more, but can't say the same for our next generation, my wife is already a convert (to Tesla) and my young daughter may never even get a chance to drive ICE cars.
Tesla is doing well and they have a serious fan boy base. i also have friends that have them. Their biggest complaint is the shoddy interior. It will be a lot more than just leather. We will see in 2-3 years when Tesla has real competition on the market. I think there is room for all as ICE will take the real hit in sales. The M3 and Emira are probably my last ICE cars.
The problem is, that what people don't understand is that Tesla is not a car company. It's a tech company that also happens to make cars

At the moment they make the quickest, most efficient and cheapest EVs in the market like it or not. You can compare other sedans or suvs and they are all slower, heavier, less efficient and even more expensive

On top of that you have their AutoPilot tech which is 7-8 yrs ahead of anybody else.
There is no way any other automaker will be able to even get enough AI engineers to make anything even close. Only one that could even try would be Apple and they they already cancelled their car project a couple of times already

Quality could definitely be better, but you can understand that at the rate they are growing, quality is probably pretty hard to achieve
This should improve with their new GigaCasting where the whole chasis is made of 3 parts, the front casting, the battery/tray, and the rear casting removing 100's of parts and assembly

Having said that. The 7:30 time doesn't look that impressive. It has 2 times the HP as the M3 and it's about the same lap time :
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