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Originally Posted by jmack123

This is the problem with anecdotal statements. The X5M isn't track capable? It (F85) was certainly capable of outpacing an M5 (F10) when compared in a track setting. Again, the idea that these vehicles aren't track capable is laughable and is an antiquated paradigm. While that may have been the case in decades past, technological advancements have clearly demonstrated that the gap has significantly narrowed in that regard.

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/autozeitung-test-track

https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-x5-m-2015

On the Nurburgring, it performed comparably to the prior generation M5/M6. As we would expect, the cars should outperform the SUVs, however the fact that it could compete with the prior generation M cars is admirable:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nürburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times

https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-x5-m-2015

Never said they were not capable or fast... Just saying that they have a physical handicap by their tall and heavy nature even if technology can partially hide this, there are still laws of physics on top. I'm sure the enlighten person that created the SUV didn't have track use in mind... So probably a street sports cars is an easier and more appropriate endeavour to make track capable

Bottom line: I'm pretty sure you can cut a steak with a spoon sharpen to death, but it's always easier to sharpen a dull knife to do that.