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Originally Posted by Humdizzle

Its for cost cutting. The ZF8 is in everything from a 228i to a F90 M5. I have never driven a ZF that is better than a DCT hard driving. They upshift quick and are less finicky than DCT transmissions in how they have to be driven (dct's still roll back on hills, you still feel the clutch engagement, etc). But my f30 was terribly slow when asking for downshifts flying into corners with the ABS kicking in. There are many reviews on the new supra saying the same thing.

Majority of M car drivers are not on this forum. They don't care about the automatic having a split second slower downshift, or the f80 having turbo lag compared to the e92.

They buy the car because it looks cool and to show off. They will never turn off traction control, they won't know how to setup the M1 and M2 modes. So I understand why BMW has done this.