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      05-30-2021, 12:39 PM   #61
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Interior and exterior, the M is the least attractive car in the comparison, followed by the Giulia. At least with the others, there is some angle that is appealing. The M just sucks from every angle. Can't get to performance if I have to get myself to like the styling. Such a disappointment.
The car isn't cheap. You should not have to learn to like it. Can you learn to like an ugly broad? I guess. But why?
No doubt. I have a similar challenge with my M4CS. It's perfect looking, makes good power, but it's DCT, which is a hyped up automatic transmission. At least I look at it every time I walk away. I miss my 6 speed E92 M3. Great styling and it made all the right noises, I could even live without the torque.

The G80 is a hard pass though, it could run a 9 second quarter mile and I'd still pass.
If you're looking at an M4 CS there is no hesitation. I have an M3 CS and the DCT is great it makes driving the car an event. Don't believe the bullshit that the ZF is as good. Not to mention the design of these cars is peak BMW.
The zf8 is better than the DCT imo.
Really? Interesting opinion. Do you have an opinion about when Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren and Porsche will abandon the dual clutch in favor of the superior ZF? Are you certain your "opinion" isn't influenced by what you own and spent your money on? These forums can be great but can also be echo chambers.
What do any of those cars have to do with BMW?!?!
You mean the two cars you were going back and forth on weren't a G82 and a LaFerrari? Fucking peasant. The LaFerrari was cool but it didn't have wireless charging so I went with the M4. And get this, the dealership didn't even offer 3 free months of Sirius with the Ferrari. It was a no brainer at that point.
"I need only the most engaging gearbox possible for my 4 seater sports sedan."

"Of course sir, that's why we offer a manual!"

"No no, a manual is too inconvenient for me."
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