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      04-14-2021, 08:30 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by VIERsr View Post
Maybe you missed a point. Someone above asked if this car 'push you into the seat'. No, it doesn't, not for me when I drove it. And the claimed data prove it.
Acceleration 80-120 km/h in 4th/5th with manual transmission:
F80: 3.5s/4.2s
G80: 4.1s/5.6s
F87C: 3.3s/4s (<- smaller wheels, so slightly shorter gear ratios)

This means that if you accelerate to full throttle with the new M3 in 4th gear, you're as fast (or 'pushed in the seat') as the old M3 in 5th. Fast? Depends. Engaging? Well, not for me.
That's not to say the car is slow or bad to drive, it's great and the manual gearbox is amazing, but if you're looking for that kick in the ass of a turbo engine, you'll be disappointed with this detuned engine. Just as if you are looking for an endless top-end, well this is not an NA engine (just like the s55 obviously isn't or any other turbo engine).
But I don't think you buy this car for that, the purpose of the manual transmission is something else, just be aware of your purchase
You were in a thread a couple of days ago talking about how the G8x’s power delivery isn’t interesting because the torque curve “does nothing” (stays flat) from 3500-6000RPM. Reminder that constant torque as RPMs rise means a linear and predictable increase in power as you go to redline.

Metrics for accelerating from 80km/h in 4th is of limited value in a car that does nearly 120km/h in 2nd. Yes, we know the S55 has noticeably more torque than the S58 below 3000RPM; that’s part of the problem when it comes to maintaining good behavior launching off the line. Yes, the S58 will penalize you more for being out of gear since it makes its power higher up, just like an NA car. Those numbers are completely irrelevant to whether the car “pushes you back in the seat” during an actual acceleration run where the RPMs are always above 3000. In those situations, the numbers flip the other way in favor of the G8x.

If you’re coming out of an S55 car and expect to be able to lazily punch it from 2000RPM and get the car moving semi-optimally, you will be disappointed. Sometimes I miss that character of my old F8x cars, but going to redline in the G8x is way more rewarding and exciting than doing the same in my old M4s, M3 CS, and M2Cs.
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