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      04-01-2024, 08:28 AM   #156
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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln View Post
Doing the loosest of loose comparisons. The Alpina B3 (340i), which has been modified to 462hp and 516tq, so, a modified M340, versus the stock M4 xDrive bests the B3 by over 25 seconds on the ring. Both cars driven by the same driver.
That’s crazy. Tires or temps make up some of that delta, or the tuning of the B58 trumps the S58? Btw original discussion was M4 manual v M340i - the differences were explained in my previous post, but I’ll make a couple points since I’ve had the x drive comp and the manual and the Z4M40 with the B58-

1) the b58 is a great engine (responsive, quick to spool up) and with some suspension mods that car must be very quick - my Z4 certainly was. I bet it would give my manual M3 a run for its money at least below 80 mph. I would imagine the brakes are also a limitation on the M340 without an upgrade - and the cooling, etc. if tracking.

2) M3 manual - car is on rails. There is obviously a suboptimal gear ratio compared to the ZF8 auto, but it’s such an enjoyable car. Not all about going faster on public roads - more time to enjoy each gear.

3) M3 comp x - I was getting 3.0s to 60 and car was unbelievably fast.
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