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      12-12-2020, 04:20 PM   #42
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I’m all for it

We all want a 1000kg car with 500+ hp V8 revving to 10000 rpm that has a 5 star crash rating, can carry 4 in comfort plus a dog, audiophile hifi, full leather, 10 piston brakes, 20 inch wheels, 300mm wide tires, oil cooler that can sustain a day of top rpm track driving, a quite cabin, parking cameras etc, etc. And cost no more than $70k...
Nope, don't count me in that "we", I remain realistic...

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This time we get a lot more power, upgraded tech., more space and likely more grip but we pay the price in weight. No free lunch.
We "pay the price" because BMW did not invest much in cutting weight. I would have taken less power for less weight, but why not have both like we had with the F8X.

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The F8X had a price as well as a tiny hp gain and a smaller less soulful engine.
That's on paper only. When the F8X was launched, the modest power increase was my main gripe about the car. This until I got to learn about official power rating standards (SAE and DIN) and how it is not possible to directly compare power ratings between NA and Turbocharged engines. The fact that my 2015 M4 was ~12mph faster than my 2008 M3 on the back-straight of my local track tells me it put down much more power that the "official" 11hp suggests. So we had less weight PLUS a fair bit more of real world power with the F8X.
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