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      05-11-2021, 01:34 AM   #75
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Originally Posted by ///AVM View Post
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In brief, yes, I find the ZF8 S3 setting to be very acceptable and enjoyable. To expound . . .

As with the M2C itself - and using the words of others in this thread - DCT seems a little more 'raw' than ZF8 in manual mode shifts. For some, the refinement of the ZF8 shifts might actually come as a welcome change?

What is important to ME is:

(1) SPEED of the shifts. Any difference in speed between DCT and ZF8 in S3 is not within the threshold of my perception at this point.

(2) FEELING the shifts be laid down, which is why I always use the shifter and never the paddles. Do DCT shifts 'feel' better to me than ZF8 shifts? Honestly, maybe a little more 'torquey' and, thus, better . . . but I feel it is a matter of cutting hairs when it comes to significance.

The fact that the ZF8 comes equipped with a torque converter might have one anticipate that 'laying down torque' is compromised compared to DCT. Not only do I 'feel' the shifts in a fashion comparable to DCT, I find very little difficulty 'chirping' the tires going from 2nd to 3rd gears in MDM mode . . . indicating substantial torque finds its way to the rear axel.

As with shifts in general, the shifts at/near redline are vastly improved in S3 compared to S1 - as one would expect. . . small miracles

Finally, the one thing I previously mentioned and has not changed is I wish there was one less gear with the ZF8, as the lower gears are just a bit too short for my liking. That said, I will adjust and learn to accept over time. . . for reference, I am not part of the 'group think' crowd who feel lower gearing is too long in the Porsche MT offerings.

Hope that helps

///AVM
Excellent! I greatly appreciate the time and energy you've dedicated to this thread. Certainly quite helpful in my decision making, as we drive seemingly similarly, both with style and settings. I feel a sense of relief as I really wanted the competition model and was ok accepting the ZF8 if it was a decent replacement of the DCT but not if it was even close to resembling a traditional torque converter automatic found in most cars, in feel, not construction. Anyway, thanks again!
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