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      03-22-2021, 10:35 PM   #75
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Lowering? Well it does have performance benefits even if you don't like the aesthetics.
No, it doesnt. You don't push that car to the limits where you will benefit from that difference of that center of gravity.
Secondly, it comes with some negatives and punishment for the chassis and the comfort.
Forget about being unable to wash it under and put high pressure wash in there to prevent future rust and clean the wheel well.

It looks out of place as the wheel arch of the car is not in sync with the wheel anymore; looks like is broken, and has no benefits for a normal user.
I do push cars to the limit (not on the street). I did find my F80 handled noticeably better after lowering springs were installed.

You're making a subjective statement about the appearance of a lowered car and for the most part I agree with you. I'm not a fan of the "slammed" look. I do feel a modest drop and spacers helps any car look better and I say that as a 39 year old Executive and not a "boy racer."
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I do push cars to the limit (not on the street). I did find my F80 handled noticeably better after lowering springs were installed.
Did it make a difference in lap time though, I mean if you're talking about hard track use and (very incrementally) lowering the centre of gravity, that's what really counts right?

Otherwise it's really just aesthetics, as the car is never going to get to that extreme edge of the performance envelope where a millimetre or two of CoG height (not ride height) will make the difference on the road...

Personally I'm more of a 'drive it stock' guy, I don't buy into modding cars the instant I buy it and if it's really that bad in the first place, why buy it? Each to their own I guess.

Anyway just saying as a 40-something guy
Unless the car's suspension has been totally thrown off by some extremely low springs that makes the bounce up and down like a jack rabbit on viagra then there are actual benefits of being slightly lower, although lap times probably won't be dramatically different. Before I went with MPHAS and had the car properly corner balanced, I just slapped some Macht Schnell Sport Comps and it improved how the far felt. It wasn't a crazy drop and I did it mainly for looks, but it did give me a bit more confidence at the track which means I can turn out a better lap than without that confidence. Maybe it's that you are sitting a bit lower, maybe it's all in our heads... but I do agree, the slammed look with springs alone without consideration as to the dampers is not a significant or even effective performance mode. Then again, the M3/4 owners that don't actually take these cars to the limit far, far outnumber those that do.
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