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jmg · 10-20-2020, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

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Originally Posted by jmg

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

I have an advantage that I get to drive all these different cars every day.

The 1M feels special. The E90 M3 feels special. The F series M cars, while having great numbers, do not feel special. They are completely lacking in character, too rough, too twitchy, no feedback. The new G series cars are leaps and bounds better. They really feel like a modern interpretation of the older E series cars. They feel planted, solid. You can feel them take a set in the corner and grip. I would happily take a new 340 over any F M car. Don't talk to me about stats, go and drive one. I feel the current M2 is better in this regard, but still not as good as the 1M. The next gen M2 is the car I am anxiously awaiting. That may be the best drivers car BMW has made in a long time, or ever again.

If they do these new M cars right, they are going to be phenomenal. Too bad about the face.

What kind of driving? No disrespect, but I used to be a valet in my younger years and I got to drive a lot of "special" cars. I couldn't say it gave me an accurate representation of each car in their elements: at the limit. How does one define "special" anyway? Because I've driven an E30, E36 and a E43. I've tracked both an E90 and my F80's and while they both feel different, I wouldn't say that the E90 was more "special" than the F80. In fact, I'm almost every single category of driving dynamics beside the sound, the F80 pretty much w blew the E90 out of the water. I would say there was slightly
more steering feedback, but honestly it was a fractional difference... it's not like comparing my mom's downright disconnected '85 Buick to a manual steering E30. It's not like the F80 steering feels like your playing Outrun at the local arcade. No one is going to suddenly vomit when they turn the wheel or turn into shit drivers by the numbness. It's like a 15% improvement in steering feel is going to undo a boat load of power and torque in a lighter car that handles, brakes, and accelerates better? I find that hard to believe.

Just curious, have you driven a new G20?

Yes. Too heavy.